Gastric Bypass Weblog

Has anyone out there had surgery at the Cleveland Clinic in Weston, Florida?
Help pls

Thanks Patricia. I am keeping my fingers crossed that everything
continues to go smoothly.
Lap RNY 3/12/04

I've taken the liquid post-op nutritional requirements recommended by my
doctor for 4 weeks and put them in gram/percentage form to see how everything
lays
out. I put it in www.fitday.com to make the calculations easy. How does
this compare to the rest of you?
Total Calories - 1140
Fat - 31 grams - 25%
Carbs - 123 grams - 44%
Protein - 85 grams - 31%
2% Milk - 5 cups/day
Carnation Instant Breakfast, no sugar added - 5 servings/day
Pro Mod Protein Powder - 5 scoops/day
Sugar free popcicles/jell-o, broth are optional and not added to these totals.
Patti T.
SMDC, Duluth, MN
Dr. Jon Krook
Lap RNY
2/3/2004
308/288/140

I had it at Holy Cross Hospital in Ft. Lauderdale with Dr. Marema (US
Bariatrics). He was fantastic. I have heard mixed things about the doctors at
Cleveland Clinic. If you want to know more, feel free to email me.
Mindi
277/168/125??
Lap RNY 6/26/03

Dear Sheryl,
I can so relate to you. At my highest point, I was 515 lbs. I was also
wheelchair bound (as recently as 6 months ago). My entire life has
radically changed due to this surgery. It has truly given me a new life
and I'm turning 50 next month, so I've got a lot to look forward to. I
had my surgery a year and a half ago, at 386 lbs., and I'm still losing
weight. I know, if you hang in there and do what needs to be done, you
will continue to lose and will achieve your dream. Just hang onto your
goal and good luck to you.
live each day like it's your last... love like you've never been hurt...
Deb in Hazlet, NJ
"Debbie Dancer"
distal rny
September 3, 2002
386/205/165
BMI 60/30.3/24
-181
-100"
Angel to Bill, Debbie, Ilene, Roy, and Ro

THANK YOU CANDI...MIMI
Candi Read <candiread@...
the protein issue. I was telling him
about how we were all being told different number of grams per day needed
and he said he would mail me an article that was in the Journal of Medicine
that would explain it better to me. I had forgotten about it but it arrived
today. It's four pages long so I am not even going to type it out but here
is the point that I believe explains why we keep hearing different numbers.
This information comes from Stanford Hospital-Department of Nutritional
Medicine.
The average American requires 0.36 grams of high quality protein (such as
chicken, fish, tofu and legumes) per pound of body weight. This amount is
necessary to maintain lean muscle mass and avoid "muscle wasting". An
extremely active person or an "athlete" needs additional protein (also high
quality) and should strive to take in quantities equal to 0.43 grams per
pound of body weight.
So I guess depending on your body weight the amount of protein needed per
day should be different for each of us.
Candi

Well tomorrow is the big day---we are supposed to get up to 8 inches of snow
tongiht wouldnt you know---so it may be a challenge but we will get there.
Please say a special prayer for us if you will---some for me but mostly for the
people taking care of my daughter during this time. She can be very scary to
take care of with her illnesses and has never been away from mom for than 2
hours at the most her entire life. Just pray that all goes smoothly and I will
let you all know how it goes-----Cindy in VA---pre-op 2/16 300lbs

RACHEL, WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND..OR CAN IT BE ANYTHING OVER THE COUNTER?....MIMI
Rachel Hawkridge <rayehawk@...
which is vitamin B1. And all of you are at risk for the same thing, if you
don't take a good B Complex. We can't eat enough whole grain foods to get the
thiamine in, even if we did absorb all we ate.
There are several B deficiencies which can cause permanent, life-altering
neurological damage. Please don't risk it!
Rachel
Rachel Hawkridge in Washington State.

We aren't supposed to have rice.
Pam
305/251/170

TRACEY, ARE YOU SELLING IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE THE TASTE?!..MIMI
tracey ewing <wyatts_mommy23@...
that I have 2 2 pounds jugs of nectar for sale on ebay cheap. I paid $24 a
piece for them and I am selling them cheap. Apple ecstacy and carribbean cooler
flavors. Check them out :) eBay item 2985906545 (Ends Feb-14-04 17:07:57 PST) -
SYNTRAX Nectar whey protein isolate
Tracey :)
317/ 275 / ?

I know that this is commonly accepted . . . but our stomachs have no pylorus
valve at the bottom . . . our stoma is open. Also, we *burp* at the top of our
stomachs. We are not a closed system. The balloon thing is a closed system.
Some people believe that we'll explode . . . won't happen.
All that aside . . . gas hurts, especially as a newbie post-op. Stay away from
the soda for a while. Even at 11 months, I prefer my soda on the flat side.
(Fountain drinks, over lots of ice, etc.)
Rachel
From: "Susan" <susan@...
Subject: drinking soda....
Try this little test:
Take a small water balloon and pour about 3-4 oz. of soda into it. Tie
it off and watch while you move it around just a little.
Now think to yourself..... do I want this to happen to my new tummy?
Rachel Hawkridge in Washington State.

i asked my dr the other day that since i am losing weight will i have
to go off the thyroid meds. he said no, because i didnt develop the
problem when i gained weight (its hereditary) and i wont lose it when
i lose weight. he had my blood tested and he told me to continue
what i was on.

Cindy do the happy dance!!!!!!!!! The day is just about here yeah for you!!!!!!!
Mine is still 2 weeks away, so best wishes & I will see you soon on the loosing
side!!!!!!!!!
wasia nahshal <cznwa2004@...
my prayers.I wish you an uneventful surgery and a speedy recovery.God bless you
and your precious daughter.LOL Wasia
LAP RNY
12-17-03
Dr, Waldrep
304/269/???
rn4maknme@... wrote:
Well tomorrow is the big day---we are supposed to get up to 8 inches of snow
tongiht wouldnt you know---so it may be a challenge but we will get there.
Please say a special prayer for us if you will---some for me but mostly for the
people taking care of my daughter during this time. She can be very scary to
take care of with her illnesses and has never been away from mom for than 2
hours at the most her entire life. Just pray that all goes smoothly and I will
let you all know how it goes-----Cindy in VA---pre-op 2/16 300lbs

Jason stay on here with us. Even if you don't have the surgery we are here to
talk to. It helps to lose weight with us even if you don't have the surgery. You
won't lose it as fast but you can lose. Is the doctor going to give you pills to
help you lose on your own? I know it is depressing not having the surgery. We
all know what it is like. But at least you have friends on here .
Joyce
22/12/03
290/233/150??
starbear212004@... wrote:
Dear Group,
I just found out that the Texas Legislature has stated that because the
number of deaths attributed to Weight Loss Surgery, IT IS NOT COVERED by Texas
Medicaid. So until I can figure out where to go from here, or what to do, I may
have to drop out of these mailing lists until further notice. The only thing
that I can really count on doing perhaps is Overeaters Anonymous. I will have my
subscriptions open for awhile untill I can have something else in place.
Jason-- Perminate Preop :(

The thiamine deficiency produces a thinning of the myelin sheath, which makes
the symptoms of Multiple Sclerosis. Other Bvite deficiencies can cause similar
symptoms, but they can vary from vite to vite.
They can check your Bs, but it's not really necessary. They're all water
soluble, and may be different tomorrow. Take a good B100 Complex, or a Stress B
complex. If really distal, take 2. I also take folic acid with my iron, and
another with my last calcium dose of the day. Folic acid is really important in
the absorption of these two vital minerals. And two of the most common problems
with bypass patients is anemia and osteoporosis (iron deficiency and calcium
deficiency).
Also, a B12 deficiency causes pernicious anemia. Iron deficiency related to B12
shortage.
Rachel
From: "marlaapeterson" <petersonmcee@...
Subject: Rachel
Hi Rachel,
Your post got my attention, could you please tell me more? Do I just
need to have a blood test in order to find out if I have enough B1?
Although, I know every person is different, I would still like to
play it safe. What type of neurological damage do you speak of?
Thanks in advance.
Marla
2-12-03
RNY
Fountain Valley, CA
Dr. Chin
360/220/185
Rachel Hawkridge in Washington State.

My hubby and I do nothing for Valentines Day every year. Maybe it's our age
or something I don't know. But about a week ago I told him "I have no idea
what to get your for Valentine's Day so here is my thought".."There is a new
day spa opening up in a couple of weeks not too far from home...let's go
there together and you get a massage and I will get something done"...He
said "Sounds wonderful to me"...so that was the extent of Valentines Day for
us.
We do this same thing over Birthday's and anniversaries and Christmas as
well. Don't ask me why. I guess maybe because if I feel like buying him a
gift I don't need a special occasion to do it.
Now don't anyone think I am knocking or poo pooing doing things for these
occasions because I think it is sweet and lovely. It is just not us. I
wish sometimes we were more like that.
The ring sounds lovely Wasia!!!
Candi

Hi everyone,
Are there any southeastern Pennsylvania Gastric Bypass/Bariatric Surgery
(weight loss) groups and/or support meetings that any one here knows of? I
would
like to get to a nice one to get back on track. Thank you!
Take care, be well, much love!
Sincerely,
~ Katie

First I gotta ask...Are you really able to eat that much?
Up until about 4 months I could not take in more than 500 calories in a day.
I could never have gotten my numbers anywhere near that. I am now 5 months
1 wk post op and I am still not close to those numbers.
Candi

I had my surgery on November 4 , 2003. Everything is going great. I
lost 53 pounds but I'm losing my hair too. This morning I was washing
my hair and the amount of the hair that I lost was increidible.
Please guys let me know what I can do to stop this or to reduce the
amount of hair lost. If this continue like this I'm going to change
my name to KOJAK.

nice to have ya onboard. feel free to pick our brains, your surg is less than 3
wks away.
( & yes, the moderators received your intro, not to worry.)
lori h.

When I started getting scared about surgery I just think about the fact that God
is in control and he's calling all the shots. He knew before I was born the day
I would begin and the day and moment when I would die. If my surgery in on
April 5th and its God's will that he take me home to heaven on that day it
wouldn't matter if I skipped the surgery and stayed in my bed. I could go of a
heart attack, stroke, accident..you name it..when its your time to go you can't
change it. Now please don't feel i'm trying to be morbid..i'm not. its just
that I believe that what will be will be. I am not in control of my destiny.
I'm just trusting God and striving for a better life. This thought gives me
peace.
Faith
preop

Please tell me what I have to do to get my name off this email list. I am not in
my email account that often and when I logged on today I have 1,235 messages. I
appreciate the support, but I can't get any other mail until I wean through all
this. I just wish I had time.
Thank you!!!!
Carrie
SouthernAngelsPC@... wrote:
I am looking for a EASY, FAST, Fat free/Low fat, Sugar free/low sugar recipe
that I can make for a christmas party that kids as well as adults would
enjoy...
Thanks
Crystal

I had open surgery . . . scar from breastbone to belly button. I spent 2 nights
in hospital, went home on the 3rd day. Got home Fri eve., spent weekend with
DH, he went to work on Monday . . . I stayed home alone. No problems. Went
back to work after 2 full weeks off. (Babysitting a 3 year old 2 days/week.)
I didn't do much for a couple of weeks, except sleep and walk, and sleep. Took
naps with the kid every afternoon. Very little housework, no cooking - only
nuked soup, and hot tea, etc.
My experience - YMMV.
Rachel
320highest/305post-op/180now/150ish goal
From: Patricia Waldon <mknaynay98@...
Subject: Re: Help After Open
did the majority of u guys have the open or the lap? How large is the
incision and is it vertical or horziontal. I have all ready been cut
open twice, just kinda wondered about the incision. Did most of u guys
have to have help the first week of sugery? This dr keeps his patients
in the hospital for 4-5 days depending on how well u do and it's a 3 hr
drive from the hospital to our home I'm not looking forward to that
trip lol. What foods are considered a no no especially the first couple
of months? Do dairy foods cause any problem? What are the steps
leading up to scheduling your surgery clue me in on what to expect?
Tricia in AL
Rachel Hawkridge in Washington State.

TO FAITH: Thank you for those words you could not have said it any better.....
Faith Mills <tmrcj@...
When I started getting scared about surgery I just think about the fact that God
is in control and he's calling all the shots. He knew before I was born the day
I would begin and the day and moment when I would die. If my surgery in on
April 5th and its God's will that he take me home to heaven on that day it
wouldn't matter if I skipped the surgery and stayed in my bed. I could go of a
heart attack, stroke, accident..you name it..when its your time to go you can't
change it. Now please don't feel i'm trying to be morbid..i'm not. its just
that I believe that what will be will be. I am not in control of my destiny.
I'm just trusting God and striving for a better life. This thought gives me
peace.
Faith
preop

I am so sorry .Is this the only insurance that you can chose
from.keep your head up where there is the will there is a way.God
bless you I will keep you in my prayers. Wasia

Try 2400 micrograms of Biotin (taken daily) to prevent hair loss.

--Faith
I just said those same word to a friend of mine on the phone wow
some kind of conformation or what? lol
I to am a little scared but I try and think the same way
I have a surgery date for April 14th I could have had it sooner but I
am working on a Easter Drama at my church and wanted to wait untile
after Easter
Blessing in Christ
Patty

Thanks for sharing Rachel, I guess I will look like scar gity when it's all
done, I all ready have a zipper from a c section and also an appendectomy and
this past June had a breast reduction so I guess it will look like a roadmap nuy
I look at this as a necessary surgery to help improve my odds of a longer life.
I'm glad u don't have to have anyone at home with u, I would go bonkers if
someone was here 24/7. I hope they give u decent pain meds when u go home. My
surgeon this summer took real good care of me, but my pcd doen't like
prescribing any pain meds which I need on a daily basis to deal with the
fibromyalgia. Thanks again for answering my post.
Tricia
Rachel Hawkridge <rayehawk@...
I had open surgery . . . scar from breastbone to belly button. I spent 2 nights
in hospital, went home on the 3rd day. Got home Fri eve., spent weekend with
DH, he went to work on Monday . . . I stayed home alone. No problems. Went
back to work after 2 full weeks off. (Babysitting a 3 year old 2 days/week.)
I didn't do much for a couple of weeks, except sleep and walk, and sleep. Took
naps with the kid every afternoon. Very little housework, no cooking - only
nuked soup, and hot tea, etc.
My experience - YMMV.
Rachel
320highest/305post-op/180now/150ish goal
From: Patricia Waldon <mknaynay98@...
Subject: Re: Help After Open
did the majority of u guys have the open or the lap? How large is the
incision and is it vertical or horziontal. I have all ready been cut
open twice, just kinda wondered about the incision. Did most of u guys
have to have help the first week of sugery? This dr keeps his patients
in the hospital for 4-5 days depending on how well u do and it's a 3 hr
drive from the hospital to our home I'm not looking forward to that
trip lol. What foods are considered a no no especially the first couple
of months? Do dairy foods cause any problem? What are the steps
leading up to scheduling your surgery clue me in on what to expect?
Tricia in AL
Rachel Hawkridge in Washington State.

Hi All. I'm wondering how you all are preparing/did prepare for
your surgery in terms of diet? I haven't been given any guidelines
per se, but the surgeon would like me to lose 15 pounds or so to
make sure my liver is shrunken.
I've heard of some patients doing a two week protein drink and salad
diet. Sounds like I could manage that. Just wondering what others
did?

Frist off I would like to take this time to Welcome newcommers; I am sure
you will find this site helpful and full of good people.
Secondly concerning chat, I am sorry if I sounded rude or to outspoken its
just I also get the reminders about chat and go there hoping that someone
will show up and have a conversation and maybe make some new friends. Anyone

My husband had gastric bypass june 2 2003. He weighed 420. He is
down to 265. The last two months he has been having severe
headaches and is very moody. I mean he goes from being his great
happy self to hating every minute with his family. We have had an
MRI done and they checked his thyroid and it all came back fine.
Has anyone else experienced this?
Help in SOuth Dakota

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Candi,
Yes, I was able to drink that much a week after surgery. It includes 5 cups
of milk along with the added powder. I split the drinks into 5 servings a day
where I sit and sip over a period of time. I also drink 32 - 64 oz of water
throughout the day in-between. These are all part of our recommendations and
the bariatric team is happy with how I am doing. I see online that each
program throughout the country have their own recommendations and each person
has
their own tolerance of what they are able to do.
Patti T.
SMDC, Duluth, MN
Dr. Jon Krook
Lap RNY
2/3/2004
308/293/140

Hi Lori,
Thank you for your sweet note this morning. I can hardly believe its down to
3 more days. Other than a bit of house cleaning and cooking some things for
my family, I thik all is a green light here.
I'll keep you posted when I'm on the losing side!
Becky
In a message dated 2/16/2004 7:47:04 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
wlslori@... writes:

hi becky. hang in there, you'll soon be on the most "fastastic
voyage" imaginable.
lori h.

Faith,
I feel the same way. While I was waiting alone in the pre-surgery room I
prayed for my angels to hold and nurture me. They were there for me and helped
me to relax. But I knew that what was going to happen next was completely out
of my hands. I even asked the nurses to help me relax. When she caressed my
face before going under anesthesia, I believe God brought her as another angel
for me.
Patti T.
SMDC, Duluth, MN
Dr. Jon Krook
Lap RNY
2/3/2004
308/293/140

great job ray!
lori h.

Patti -
I use very low sugar protein drinks from VitaLady.com. My surgeon (who has 16
years of WLS exp., done over 3000 surgeries himself, is one of the few qualified
to *teach* bariatric surgery by ASBS) has a couple of guidelines for us . . .
1. NO MILK, NO SUGAR - we are supposed to keep our per meal sugar to 6 grams.
2. Minimum of 4 (30 grams of *protein*) shakes/day for even his proximals.
3. A full range of specified vites.
My regular (use every day) proteins include Fuzzy Navel by Nectar, which is a
whey isolate (30 grams of protein, 0 sugars in 1.5 scoops); Pure Whey Stack by
Champion Nutrition (Chocolate) which is a whey concentrate (30 grams of protein,
about 6 grams sugars (from whey concentrate, mostly) in 1.5 scoops); and
ProPlete Gold by LaBrada (also a concentrate, stats similar to STack). I do
6/day. Each has about 130 calories per shake. I also eat 2 to 4 times per day,
about 1 oz. by volume of dense protein, with some added veg.
This is my plan - I was doing 4-5 shakes/day until the 6 month mark, when I
upped my intake to 6/day. And my weight loss speeded up at that point. I've
lost 140 lbs, I'm 11 months out, still losing rapidly (8-10 lbs/month), and
have lots of energy, good color, good skin recovery. I've gone from a size 28
jeans on morning of surgery to size 12 today, which are rapidly getting baggy.
3X or 4X shirts, now small to medium. Life is *goooooood*! :o)
Rachel
320/180/150ish
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:54:11 EST
From: kouzzie@...
Subject: Re: Post-op Nutrition Breakdown..To Candi
Candi,
Yes, the calorie breakdown is from the milk, carnation instant
breakfast and
protein powder mix. I took the information from all the labels, put
them in
the www.fitday.com site to get the breakdown. I'm wondering what other
people
have been asked to do by their surgeons and what the nutritional
breakdown is.
Patti
Rachel Hawkridge in Washington State.

I beg to differ, Mary . . . depending on the type of rice, and how much it is
cooked *it can & does swell*. I can only assume that you don't have a lot of
experience with short grain and sticky rices.
Rice is best served al dente, as is pasta. Unfortunately, both of these will
*swell*, if eaten al dente. Sushi rice is particularly bothersome, as it is
served al dente, and is short grained . . .
Basmati rice is better, well cooked. Next are the other longer grained rices,
also well cooked.
Also, be aware that many starches can be stuffed down in large amounts with no
painful consequences, other than slowed weight loss, or gain. YMMV. I eat
protein first, because (in part) it temporarily blocks stoma, producing an
earlier feeling of full. I can eat carbs all day and not feel full, as the
carbs are soft enough to go thru the pouch without stopping. This is why they
were included in your soft foods plan.
You are, of course, always welcome to prove me wrong . . . eat some dense
protein, then eat rice that *hasn't* been cooked to death. Rice that is firm to
bite, not crunchy, just chewy. DOn't call an ambulance when you feel like
you're having a heart attack. Just go walk around outside, and wait for 15-20
min. Or throw up. It helps if, when you start getting foamy, you spit out the
foam, instead of swallowing. Swallowing saliva makes the problem worse.
Rachel
Rachel
From: bosarge3@...
Subject: Re: first dumping episode
Rice does not expand in your stomach unless it is raw. That is why the
birds
die is because the raw rice absorbs moisture and then it swells up,
but what
we eat is cooked and therefore it does not swell when eaten. Rice was
included in my soft food stage.
Mary A. B.
LAP RNY 3/22/03
Rachel Hawkridge in Washington State.

Someone send me the recipe for the zucchini lasagna.....I know how to
make regular, do you just substitute the zucchini for the noodles? I
really don't like zucchini but thought I would try it
Tanya T.
Lap RNY 6/20/03
432/293/170
Houston, Dr. Adam Naaman
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"I will find my way, I can go the distance. I'll be there someday if I
can be strong, I know every mile will be worth my while, I would go most
anywhere to fell like I belong."

Candi -Thanks for this. It's really helpful. I wonder if there is
a way to figure out how much malapsorption happens. I'm having RNY
proximal, so I guess it isn't nearly as much as DS or RNY-distal.
I guess we'd have to add that on top of what the "normal" digestive
system requires.
Thanks again
Jayne
Lap RNY, w/choly
3/12/04

The instructions that I received about rice and pasta was that I had to be
sure they were very well cooked or they would swell up and cause a problem.
Sandra

I got a free sample of Champion Banana Scream with my last protein
order. I love banana, and so I don't want to screw up my little
sample. Not sure if I should just shake it, blend it with ice, or
what! Who likes Banana Scream, and how do you prepare it?
Thanks!
Gina in CA
LAP RNY 07-17-03
330/224.25/130?

this is stacy beck from Galesburg I was to have surgery on the 18 of Feb. while
my test for H-PYLORI ( infection of the intestines ) came back a little to high
so they want to do a scope down the throat in to the stomach and see what is
going on. the guy at the PSG ( Peoria surgical group) told me that they would
put me to sleep I have to go in on Thursday Feb. 19,2004 at 6.30 a.m......I am
mad at myself for it not coming down. but I wonder if all the other meds I am on
might be the reason why it is so high (2.2 ) and it was (2.5) the first
time....oh well I know I need to be infection not at the time of surgery I just
hate being put on hold after all the time so far I have waited over 2 yrs to be
approved and now it starts again .ok now that I am done whining....have a great
day.......
Stacy Beck
Galesburg,Il.
Surgery Date : FEB.18.2004
406/ FEB,10,2004 I AM 400.1..
Melinda thought it was great/someday195

Can anyone tell me what it means when your urine looks like it has
blood in it? Kinda like it does when you have a kidney infection or
stones. What am i doing wrong? Phyllis in Mont. Al.

My dr only recommeds Calcium, Multi Vits and B12....Are there other things
that I should be taking? I know all drs are different but I just want to be as
safe as possible!
Thanks
Crystal
11/18/03
365/285/2nd mini goal 250

In a message dated 2/16/04 1:51:35 PM, laredo_36042@... writes:
<< Can anyone tell me what it means when your urine looks like it has
blood in it? Kinda like it does when you have a kidney infection or
stones. What am i doing wrong? Phyllis in Mont. Al.
Could be a bladder infection. Remotely, I have seen it happen when a person
drinks a lot of red-colored liquids such as Hawaiian Punch. Best thing to do
is have a urine test done.
Brenda J.
Mankato, MN
RNY 12/99

I'm 11 months out, and have lost 145 lbs? Not that it really makes a difference
- what's important is if it makes a difference in *your* weight loss.
! do 6 shakes/day, each made with 1.5 scoops (30 grams of protein), because
that's all anyone (except pro athletes) can absorb at one time. Anything more
at once is just a waste . . . no help. :o)
My losses sped up a little at 6 months, when I boosted my shakes to 6.
Rachel
<< From: SouthernAngelsPC@...
Subject: protein question for post ops...Thyroid question also!
For those of you who say you drink 6/8 protein drinks a day.First of
all When
did you have surgery and how much weight have you lost (Just curious if
the
added protein is helping from others i have talked to...even though I
know
Rachel Hawkridge in Washington State.

My nutritionist put me on calcium citrate with Vitamin D & Iron Ferrous Along
with Sublingal B-12 and Multi Vitamins.LOL Wasia
SouthernAngelsPC@... wrote:My dr only recommeds Calcium, Multi Vits and
B12....Are there other things
that I should be taking? I know all drs are different but I just want to be as
safe as possible!
Thanks
Crystal
11/18/03
365/285/2nd mini goal 250

Stacy I know that this set back is a bummer.However it is best to be free of any
infection before having surgery. especialy one that re rout your intestents,You
will have your surgery and all will go well .PS you are not whining just needed
to vent that is why we are here.I wish you tha best .LOL Wasia
stacy beck <myhumingbird@...
was to have surgery on the 18 of Feb. while my test for H-PYLORI ( infection of
the intestines ) came back a little to high so they want to do a scope down the
throat in to the stomach and see what is going on. the guy at the PSG ( Peoria
surgical group) told me that they would put me to sleep I have to go in on
Thursday Feb. 19,2004 at 6.30 a.m......I am mad at myself for it not coming
down. but I wonder if all the other meds I am on might be the reason why it is
so high (2.2 ) and it was (2.5) the first time....oh well I know I need to be
infection not at the time of surgery I just hate being put on hold after all the
time so far I have waited over 2 yrs to be approved and now it starts again .ok
now that I am done whining....have a great day.......
Stacy Beck
Galesburg,Il.
Surgery Date : FEB.18.2004
406/ FEB,10,2004 I AM 400.1..
Melinda thought it was great/someday195

Can anyone tell me how much protein are you supposed to have a day?
Phyllis in Mont. Al.

PHyllis...all surgeons are different. for me its 80 grams!!
Hope this helps
Crystal
lap RNY
11/18/03
365/285/2nd mini goal 250

Help i,m 13 days post op and I'm busy looking for something to chew.
please give adive on stay on soft diet.
tutu

I do. My moods are so bad when I start to lose more weight. I hate myself the
most when I do it. But you just can't help it. Anything will set it off. I have
a girl at work tells everyone I had this surgery cause I didn't want to pull
myself from the table. I have to work with her everyday. I didn't do anything to
her. I feel like I have to walk on egg shells all the time at work or I am going
to exploded. So I come home and take it out on the one I love the most. I keep
telling them I am sorry. It is a everyday crises. Week-ends are the best. I am
away from ppl and I stay home in my shell.
Joyce
beckyboo9970000 <beckyboo9970000@...
My husband had gastric bypass june 2 2003. He weighed 420. He is
down to 265. The last two months he has been having severe
headaches and is very moody. I mean he goes from being his great
happy self to hating every minute with his family. We have had an
MRI done and they checked his thyroid and it all came back fine.
Has anyone else experienced this?
Help in SOuth Dakota

Lisa, often it does take years to come to the decision to do this. I
certainly did. I do hope you have a speedy resolve to this. Your
determination to "refuse to be beat" is great!
Joan
LAP RNY 11/18/03
Dr. Higa, Fresno, CA
282pre-op/275surg/235/140
jclinton@...

Yeah for you!!!!!!!! You go girl 70 pounds is awesome in 2 months. I am 12 days
away from being on the loosing side so I can't answer your questions, but it's
nice to hear from the new looser not to far out. Happy Dance!!!!!!!! Why worry
if you gained ? I mean heck you know you lost so much in short time just don't
worry be happy and get your protien in!!!!!!!!!
Diana Shore <sumbunnylovesu@...
this time to Welcome newcommers; I am sure
you will find this site helpful and full of good people.
Secondly concerning chat, I am sorry if I sounded rude or to outspoken its
just I also get the reminders about chat and go there hoping that someone
will show up and have a conversation and maybe make some new friends. Anyone

Dee Dee...
I'm with you. Have tried going to chat room at least five times and nothing,
If anyone has some input...would love to hear it. However...keep in mind...this
lady is computer illiterate. follow the KISS theory please.
Deeders <sumbunnylovesu@...
ok was just trying to find the chat for the group could someone tell
me where do you find it i went to the group and hit chat but nothing
so please give me some guidness would love to participate.....
dee dee
494 pre op
post op
444 after one month

HI all havent been here for awhile couse i didnt think i was gonna
get my sugery. well i found out today that i have been approved and i
am now waiting on the clinic to get some paperwork straightend out
and they will be calling me to get me set up. its hard to say how
long that could be. but just knowing that i have been approved has me
scared to death! its actually reality now!! i have been on this group
for awhile and have researched it to death lol i have a best friend
and my father in law that have had it done in the past year so i have
2 very good examples to look at! i guess just the thought of surgery
is what scares me as i am married and have 4 kids,what if something
happens to me? i know everyone thinks that way but man lol i have had
3 c-sections and i worry about the pain. i did real good with the
other sugeries and wonder if this will be like them. what if i dont
wake up.......as scared as i am the other direction is worse 270
pounds diabetes and all the bad stuff that comes with it. sorry to
ramble but just found out and smacked with reality lol
Tracey

IT IS SOOO NORMAL TO BE SCARED GIRL. I WAS TERRIFEID RIGHT UP UNTIL THE
MORNING I WAS HEADING FOR THE HOSPITAL AND I JUST HAD TO PUT IT IN GODS HANDS. I
FUGURED IF HE THOUGHT IT WAS TIME TO GO I WOULD GO NO MATTER WHERE I WAS,
OPERATING TABLE, CAR, CROSSING THE STREET, HEART ATTACK, IF YOU ARE MEANT TO GO
THAT
DAY YOU WILL GO. I ALSO KNEW THAT I WAS DOING THIS FOR MY KIDS TO GIVE THEM A
BETTER LIFE. I WAS A LAZY 378 POUND MOTHER WHO WAS VERY DEPRESSED AND NEVER
WANTED TO DO ANYTHING BECUASE OF MY WEIGHT. I LOST 140 POUNDS AND AM NOT AT
GOAL BUT FEEL AWESOME AND GO EVERYWHERE AND DO EVERYTHING WITH MY KIDS AND ALL
OUR LIVES HAVE GOTTEN SO MUCH BETTER. WE ARE EVEN EXPECTING BABY #4 IN JULY. I
HAVE NOT GAINED ALOT BEING PREGO, JUST 5 POUNDS, AND I FEEL BETTER THAN EVER.
THIS IS THE SMALLEST I HAVE EVER BEEN WHILE PREGNANT. THE BENEFITS SURE ARE
WORTH THE RISK. I ALSO HAD IT IN MY HEAD THAT IF FOR SOME REASON I DID DIE, I
WOULD NEVER OF KNOWN IT RIGHT. BUT ANY SURGERY IS A RISK, EVEN THE CSECTIONS YOU
AHVE HAD. A LADY TOLD ME HER C SECTIONS WERE WORSE THAT HER WLS AND SHE HAS
GONE ON TO AHVE A TUMMY TUCK TOO. MY NEXT GOAL AFTER I LOSE THE REST OF MY
WEIGHT. WELL, GOOD LUCK AND GO FOR IT, YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE AND WE WILL ALL BE
PRAYING FOR YOU.
God Bless,
Robin, NorthEastern, NY
EDD- July 27th, 2004
Mommy to:
Benjamin & Jonathan
(twin boys 7 1/2),
Madison, daughter, 5 years and
Wife to Pup 15 years (October 31, 1988)
Gastric Bypass Surgery-
October 18th 2002
Start-378, current- 246(pregnant)
goal 170 after baby :)

HELLO EVERYONE, MY COUSIN TOLD ME THAT SHE HEARD, THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A LAP.
SURG. YOU CAN NEVER AGAIN HAVE A LAP SURGERY AGAIN. I AM ASKING BECAUSE I HAD A
LAP. TUBAL--TRUE OR FALSE?...THANKS MIMI

Rachel,
You boosted your protein and now lose a little faster.
How many pounds on average do you lose a week? Just
curious. Thanks,
Shannon

Hi Shala,
That happened to me a few weeks ago. I cleaned it out with alcohol
and put some triple antibiotic on it with a q-tip, cleared up in a
matter of days. But, you may want to have it checked out anyway.
Marla
2-12-03
RNY
Fountain Valley, CA
Dr. Chin
360-220-185

But first, the problem may be that you are just eating
too fast. Happened to me a few times until I learned
to chew my food. Take small bites and chew
thoroughly.
--- jonyakalena <p1377@...

That is a false. I had my gall bladder taken out in 95 and then had the lap done
in 03.
Steph
MIRIAM RODRIGUEZ <needprozak2000@...
HELLO EVERYONE, MY COUSIN TOLD ME THAT SHE HEARD, THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A LAP.
SURG. YOU CAN NEVER AGAIN HAVE A LAP SURGERY AGAIN. I AM ASKING BECAUSE I HAD A
LAP. TUBAL--TRUE OR FALSE?...THANKS MIMI

Shannon asked . . .
<<From: Shannon Breivik <lilcomfycouch@...
Subject: Re: SouthernAngelsPC - protein shakes Qs
Rachel,
You boosted your protein and now lose a little faster.
How many pounds on average do you lose a week? Just
curious. Thanks,
Shannon
I had been losing 8-10 lbs/month for several months, and it went up to 10-11
lbs/month. I don't weigh weekly, wouldn't know . . .
Not like a huge jump, but considering that at 6 months, many are slowing down .
. . I was very happy with the result.
Rachel
Rachel Hawkridge in Washington State.

In my second week of post-op from open RNY w/chole. Still losing
quickly. Getting somewhat bored of diet looking for options. Have
had some diet soda. Sipped the soda after it was opened for probably
15 minutes or so. I enjoy soda, but don't think I want to deal with
the bloated feeling like that to often. I know I've got to increase
my protien intake and am looking forward later this week to getting
to the gym for my post-op walking. No nausea so far and my system
tells me when I'm low on water. All in all, I'm feeling good,
there's room for improvement,but I still have that drive. Thanks to
everone here for the encouragement. In case anyone cares, I posted a
small collage in the pictures folder (Ray W). My next pictures will
be at 100 days post op, hoping for -80 lbs by that time (May 5).
For those of you contemplating the surgery, read, research, and
attend the support groups. But most importantly, ASK THAT QUESTION,
whatever it is, if you don't ask it you may never find the answer to
it. As for me, even though I'm just 14 days post, I would do it
again.
Best of Luck,
-Ray

Ray...You have such a great attitude. I love your collage. I`m looking forward
to the next round of pics. I hope I do as well as you. I`m in the early stages
of working up to an insurance approval.
Alice hardestyal hardesty@...

Hey everyone I tried yesterday a shake called advantage it also says atkins on
it.. they come in 11 oz cans I had the creamy vanilla had 20g protien 1g
sugar....i had it where it was just about a slush.... was great tasting. no
after taste..... so anyone needing that extra protien try it.. it comes in
strawberry and chocolate also......
Cori
318/250/140????
11-17-03
open RNY

OK tomorrow I will be one month out and my surgeon says for me to leave the
puree stage and go to soft food stage,here are a few things I have purchased to
start with and thought this group could help me add a few items to the list.
eggs
fish
mashed potato
sweet potato
I need things with protein
Allan
Lap Rny
12-15-03
312 / 270 / ?
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Hey the most important thing Dr.Rossi said I had no ULCERS. which is good but he
still took a biopsy to check out ..
Stacy Beck
Galesburg,Il.
Surgery Date : FEB.18.2004
406/ FEB,10,2004 I AM 400.1..
Melinda thought it was great/someday195

hi carol, nice to see u pop in, it's been a while. according to
fitday.com, 3 oz broiled catfish has 16 gr prot.
PS how do u send stuff from your wireless? i got one of 'em mini
PC's & am clueless(as usual).
lori h.

Please, it is Rose. Megan comes up because I use her email. I will try to get
more protein. I have trouble eating lettuce, cellary, etc. I am going to try
to keep a journal. I did start one in the beginning but quit. Maybe it will
help if I see what I am doing wrong. I know I need to drink more water, change
up to crystal lite instead juice, try veg instead of breads. I have a doctor's
appt coming up and will make an appt with the nutritionist. I got ont the scale
today and am down to 215 (another 5 pounds lost) total of 38.8 since dec. 3.
thanks for all the advice.
Rose
Rachel Hawkridge <rayehawk@...
Megan/Rose -
What do you want us to call ya, woman? Did I get this wrong, or do you have 2
names? :o)
I don't think 33 lbs in 10 weeks is bad, but I think you could bump it up, by .
. .
1. Dropping the milk, juices - both are very high in sugars, no real food
value.
2. Adding protein shakes - very low to no sugar ones, available at
Vitalady.com.
3. Cutting your simple carbs intake. Try taking your egg and chicken salad on
a lettuce leaf, or celery stix, or cucumber slices, instead. I eat the topping
from a slice of pizz, but rarely eat any crust. Add some veggies, in place of
the simple carbs.
Simple carbs - sugars (even from milk, fruit & juice) will make you hungrier in
a couple of hours. They will make you crave later. It takes a couple of days
(usually 3) to detox, and get past the cravings, but then you'll be much better
off.
Protein shakes will provide instantly available fuel for your body to burn fat,
and to build muscle. I do 6/day, but recommend that proximals and medials do
3-4/day. Make them so that you get 30 grams of protein (not powder) per shake.
Good luck - I think you'll be happier, healthier with the above plan . . . :o)
Rachel

Rachel Hawkridge in Washington State.

Welcome and goodluck!!!
Andrea

I use/recommend good quality capsules of a B100 Complex. I use SolaRay or
TwinLabs. Take 1-2/day, depending on the length of your gut (2 for distal, prox
is prolly OK with 1).
From: MIRIAM RODRIGUEZ <needprozak2000@...
Subject: Re: Mimi & ALL - Nutritional deficiencies
RACHEL, WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND..OR CAN IT BE ANYTHING OVER THE
COUNTER?....MIMI
Rachel Hawkridge in Washington State.

I like it, but I only use 4 oz of water instead of the actual 8 oz they tell you
to us. Since my surgery in May I have been lactose intolerant and can't do the
milk. You get the same amount of protein just less liquid you have to drink.
mmgood010469 <mmgood010469@...
Banana Scream with my last protein
order. I love banana, and so I don't want to screw up my little
sample. Not sure if I should just shake it, blend it with ice, or
what! Who likes Banana Scream, and how do you prepare it?
Thanks!
Gina in CA
LAP RNY 07-17-03
330/224.25/130?

Reminder Reminder from the Calendar of Gastric_Bypass_Family
Weekly Group Chat!!
Monday February 9, 2004
7:00 pm - 10:00 pm
This event repeats every week.
Notes:

WHAT TYPE OF PROTEIN DRINKS DO YOU DRINK? THE HIGHEST IN PROTEIN I'VE
FOUND IS ATKINS 20GRMS AND DR. PHIL 26 GRMS. WHAT IS THE CHEAPEST
ALSO. PHYLLIS

that my blood work
the infection I have
questions is will this stop me from having
Stacy, I was tested for that. I think the bug is H. Pylori - causes
acid reflux and ulcers. a few weeks on the meds should solve the
problem. They are giving you the medicine now, so you will be problem
free for surgery.

Becky, Has he been checked for diabetes? His blood sugar level may be getting
low and that could be reason for his mood swings and headaches. Just a
sugestion.
LeAnn

I know I haven't been around much (going through some pretty heavy
personal stuff right now) but I promised a friend I'd check for her.
Does anyone one here know of any surgeons in the St. Louis, Missouri
area (other than Dr. Eagon) who do this surgery and accept Medicaid? If
so, please send me the details privately. My friend will certainly
appreciate any help she gets from this inquiry. Thanks a lot.
live each day like it's your last... love like you've never been hurt...
Deb in Hazlet, NJ
"Debbie Dancer"
distal rny
September 3, 2002
386/205/165
BMI 60/30.3/24
-181
-100"
Angel to Bill, Debbie, Ilene, Roy, and Ro

Try the New Start Program. It has excellent surgeons. My surgeon was
Dr. Bervetas.
Brenda
Missouri
post op 8/12/3
279/169/?

Hi. I am 14months post WLS and would like to chat if you are
interested. I also started at over 400 so I know where you are coming
from. Let me know. Kathy

I thought that name was familiar..mimi
summertodream1@... wrote:i have seen davinci syrup at walmart in the coffee
aisle
Linda
10-21-03

If you are military and I am assuming that you are since you have Tricare I
would just call and go to the lab. It is a simple blood test and they
should be able to call it in.
I am also on Tricare and what they mean when they say they only cover
surgery is that they will not cover Jenny Craig and stuff like that. If you
want a referral to a dietician to go on a medically supervised diet you can
get that from your PCM. Usually you have to go to the base. They usually
have one there.
Tricare paid for everything for my surgery and only took me about three
weeks to get approved. Course I had numerous co-morbidities and had been on
a supervised weight loss program for 3 years with no success.
Where do you live again?
Candi

Carol, 62# is absolutely great! It's only about 2-1/2 months. Keep up the
good work!
Joan
LAP RNY 11/18/03
Dr. Higa, Fresno, CA
282pre-op/275surg/236/140

what is davinci syrup?
Mary A. B.
LAP RNY 3/22/03
Dr. Steve Weinstein, MD.
Mobile, Alabama
BMI 65/43
386/259-127LBS.
59 years old

I am 7 months postop and have been able to eat just about anything I
want for a couple of months. I just can't eat very much. It
concerns me too about getting back some old habits like grazing all
evening, eating some sweets and such, but the saving grace is that I
am still slowly losing weight. I walk several times each week, and
I guess that helps. I am concerned, as you, what will happen a year
from now. Maybe if i start gaining I can break the bad habits
again. I am only about 6 lbs from my goal weight, so I guess I will
know fairly soon what to expect. If I keep losing, I guess I will
continue eating as I have lately. If I start gaining, it will be
time for reprogramming. I feel your lack of pain. I have only
gotten a little sick a few times from eating too much or too
quickly, but have never dumped. It seems too weird though to
complain about not dumping!
bill g
250/181/175
rny 7-15-03 fmc

ANOTHER GOAL.....NOW UNDER 260. 127 POUNDS GONE. YIPPEEEEEE....
Mary A. B.
LAP RNY 3/22/03
Dr. Steve Weinstein, MD.
Mobile, Alabama
BMI 65/43
386/259-127LBS.
59 years old

Howdy!
My name is Tracee and I'm from Western PA. I am 38, married, and
mama to my 21-month old daughter. We adopted our baby girl in
December, 2002 from China. She is just the most precious thing in
the world and she's a BIG reason why I decided to have WLS. I can't
be the best mama to her right now...and we didn't go half way around
the world for me to NOT be the best mama I can be!
I had my initial consult with Dr. Daniel Gagne (Pittsburgh, PA) on
February 4th and came away with a surgery date! Right now, I'm
scheduled for March 30th!!
I have severe sleep apnea and was diagnosed in 12/03 with Type II
Diabetes...we we're not anticipting any insurance problems.
I'm excited to be here and get to know some of you.
Here is my profile on ObesityHelp...
http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?
N=M1074061223&NoStatic=1
Tracee

Hello All!
I got home from surgery today. There were some complications so I stayed a
few extra days - 6 total. It feels so good to be in my home and in my own
environment. I had a whirlwind of thoughts, feelings and emotions throughout
this
experience. As I waited in pre-op I asked the nurse if I could change my
mind and she said I could. But I knew this wouldn't get easier by postponing
the
date. It's a scary thing for anyone going through major abdominal surgery.
I wasn't suprised to see they had a box of Kleenex in each room...I'm sure
they have seen many people cry as they entered the unknown.
Even though this has been physically and emotionally difficult, I am not
sorry. I know that my body was not going to allow itself to be normal weight on
its own, no matter how hard I worked on it. I feel thankful that there is a
tool such as this that will help improve my overall health. I have been crying
everyday several times, but try to sit with my emotions and let them happen.
I seem to be tolerating almost the same amount of fluid I was drinking
pre-op, which surprises me. But I am sipping throughout the day rather than
having
it for planned meals so its spread out. I'm drinking my Carnation Instant
Breakfast/Protein Mix, lots of water and have had sugar free Jell-O, popcicles
and
bouillon. I started my vitamins - Flinstone Chewables without any ill
effects. And I don't think I will need any pain meds. But I will get some to
have
on hand.
I have been so fortunate to have supportive friends visit me to help me
process through my experience. And a special thank you to my Angel, LORI who
has
been an extraordinary friend. Today she stopped at the store to pick up what I
needed. We spend many hours on the phone over the past 2 weeks, she spend 7
hours at the hospital with my family, and today we met for the first time. We
are aware of meeting each other about 15 years ago, but those memories were
faint.
I don't think anyone can totally emotionally prepare themselves for this
journey. The depth of the experience comes only when you are living it. I can
learn from others who have had the surgery, listen to my educators at the
hospital and read anything I can get my hands on. But the physical and
emotional
aspects are ours alone each with their own uniqueness. I have a vision of my
life transforming in drastic ways that I can only dream about now. I am looking
forward to the journey. And I don't mean just the aspect of losing weight.
I am already growing as a human being and get excited about what is over the
next horizon.
Honestly, when I was in the hospital I felt so much pain I didn't know how I
was going to get through it. I felt so out of control with tubes and IV's all
over my body and depending on nurses to take care of me. It's a helpless
feeling. But these 6 days have had it's own individual journey. I started with
being demanding and feeling that all nurses were inadequate to understanding
that they were there for me. I cried with a nurse as I left to apologize to
her. Even tho she didn't see that in me, I needed to say it for myself. To
admit when I have wronged someone.
This is actually a journal entry for myself. Thank you for listening!
Patti T.
SMDC, Duluth, MN
Dr. Jon Krook
Lap RNY
2/3/2004
308/140

welcome to your new life, patti! sorry for the longer hospital
stay. i wish u continued strength & patience, it ain't easy
sometimes but it'll be worth it. keep posting, & thanx for your
insightful & sage words, hunny.
lori h.

Welcome Tracee!!! You will be a loser in no time at all!!!
Candi

Congratulations!!!
Alice hardestyal hardesty@...

Sounds like you are well on your way and it definitely is a journey. Mind
Body and Soul. All has to go together.
Candi

I don't want anyone to think I am being a smart alec because I am asking
this question in complete sincerity.
For those who were nervous and those who are getting ready for surgery and
are nervous......what are you nervous about? I mean is it about what will
life be like after surgery or is it more what if something goes wrong?
I ask because I was not nervous at all. I wasn't concerned about anything
going wrong. Maybe I should have been. I don't even know why I wasn't. I
had complete faith in my doctor. But I am sure the majority of us do or we
wouldn't be letting them cut into our bodies.
I had researched alot and I was fairly certain I had a pretty good idea what
things were going to be like post op. OK so for me they were worse than I
expected but they have gotten better. All in all I would say as to what and
how much I can eat things have turned out maybe even a bit better than I was
expecting.
I remember one of the Nurse's asking me in preop if I was nervous and if I
needed "anything". I said "Yeah I need to get healthy. Let's get this show
on the road". She said "with that attitude you will do well".
But I just never had a nervous moment about it. Well at least once I made
the decision. Of course I thought about it for years before I actually
talked to the doctor. Maybe I just got rid of the nervous stuff in advance.
Candi

Even nearly two years post-op, rice is the one food I CANNOT
tolerate at all. Doesn't bother me too much, tho, lol
Steve G.
open RNY 5/6/02 Dr. Mark Gibbs
605/318/299

I am not surprised by this move by Humana. They have never been
very WLS-friendly...I had Humana when I first tried to get my
surgery. It was thru a new company policy (a different company had
just purchased my employer, and the new insurance was Humana). All
the info I had stated the procedure was covered. I went thru
initial consultations no problem. Then, after two months of the
process, I was informed by Humana the WLS was NOT covered after
all. Despite the fact I was able to provide all the documentation I
had showing my group policy numbers and that it was supposedly
covered, they insisted on appeal it was a direct exclusion in my
policy. They first tried to say I was sent the wrong policy info,
then changed their story to say it was part of the contract that
employees of my company would still be covered under the provisions
of the old insurance policy for 6 months despite the fact it was a
different insurance provider altogether. It was a load of BS.
Because I had some serious comorbidities, I couldn't fight them like
I should. I had to have the surgery.
One thing, tho...I had a lot of complications that required
hospitalization for 3 months. Because I was initially discharged 4
days after the surgery then returned two days later, it was shown as
a separate hospital stay and was billed as such...not as follow-up
to WLS. They wound up covering me for a whole lot more money than
if they had covered the surgery (about $180,000 in fact!)
Steve G.
open RNY 5/6/02 Dr. Mark Gibbs
605/318/299

It is hard for me to participate in the group chats. I live in Houston,
don't get off of work till at 5:30 (sometimes) and don't get home until
6:30 p.m. and then have to fix supper for my son and myself and work on
homework. Then days like today, I probably won't even get finished at
work until 8:00 p.m. Tuesdays is cub scouts, Wednesdays is
church....it's not that I am trying to hold out on this particular
"sharing of the minds", it's just my schedule doesn't permit it....I
believe that is probably most people's issues in this not working...just
my 2 cents.
Carol Matar
405/318/135

My recommended dosage of protein was 65 grams a day
Hannah

I was just wondering why we have a chat night when you go there and
nobody ever shows up to chat; am I just getting the wrong message
here or is it people rather just write posts than chat in a room with
a bunch and have a answer questions or just meet people who go
through the same thing we all do that have the surgery. I am more
than willing to give my opionions and advice as to what I know I just
wish others would feel the same to share with people like me who may
have some questions but find it hard to keep up with all the posts
daily.
Anyways hope this finds everyone doing good and eating right.
Dee Dee
post op dec 3, 2003
498/428
dr. weiland, wisconsin

I have never heard of it. What is it?
Candi

Hi Brian,
My name is Linda. I live in California. I guess it would depend on where you
live. Kaiser here uses Pacific Bariatric in San Diego. I had my surgery on
December 12, 2003 and have lost 45 pounds thusfar. I found one book at
wlscenter.com. The lady that wrote it got into the business after her surgery
and now has a website with a newsletter that I subscribe to and goes all over
the country speaking about the surgery and subsequent lifestyle. Her name is
Barbara Thompson.The book really didn't give me any more information than I have
been able to get from the internet support groups and doing a lot of research,
mostly on the internet. I do subscribe to 2 magazines that are very good. One
you can get from obesityhelp.com-a fabulous resource in itself. The other is WLS
Lifestyles. You can search the internet and you will have to send them a check
or use Paypal, but the magazine is still worth the trouble of not being able to
pay directly online.
If you are in California, you may also need to go through a 12-week course that
Kaiser has to prepare you for what to expect. I highly recommend attending.
Because of all the research I did, I felt so prepared. I knew more than most of
the people who were getting the surgery at the same time, and for me, most
importantly, I was ready mentally. You need to prepare yourself for the
lifestyle change. It is major, but if you can get your head into it, then you
will be less likely to have head hunger after the surgery. I don't get hungry or
have cravings anymore because I know it would be all in my head. You're really
not supposed to feel real hunger for almost a year. I do know when I need to eat
and I have had Big Eyes and had to reel myself in, but I realize that it's my
mental state and try to deal with it. I also recommend seeing a therapist that
you feel comfortable with. It took me three times to find a person who was
positive and treated me with respect. I don't see her that much now, but I had
someone who I could talk to that would help me get my feelings organized and
help me through it.
I wish you all the best. Kaiser is great. Use all the resources that they have
to your advantage.
Regards,
Linda
Message: 9
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 21:22:40 -0000
From: "Brian"
Subject: Question about proccess.
I am going to my orientation for the gastric bypass surgery next
friday. are there any good books to get on the subject? I have kaiser.
anybody know the process for them?
thanks can you email me at vrcat50@...?

Rachel...You are an inspiration!!!!
Alice hardestyal hardesty@...

Hi all,
Over the past week I've strayed a little from the "soft" 6wk diet.
I've had refried beans (mashed well) 1/2 cup... scrambled egg with
some melted cheddar cheese (1 egg and 2 table spoons of shredded
cheese). I'm still maintaining my protien shakes and cottage cheese
with small chunked fruit. Lots of water. I've also tried about a
half-cup of home made chili with beans and little hamburger. All of
which is staying down thankfully. I'm stretching these meals over
45min to an hour. Just need to know some of your opinions. Am I way
off base here. I know when I'm full. I keep all portions to one-half
cup and stretch them out over time. The last thing I want to do is
ruin my pouch.
Thanks,
Ray

well my soy protein mix has 25 grams of protein!!!!!!!!! Can anyone tell me what
i should be looking for on labels??????? I know I should make wise food choices
when trying to get enough protein. And I assume I need to watch the sugar
content and fat I assume. What else should i watch for? Carbs? how many is to
many??? Thanks!!
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I am so happy!!!!
*************269**************
Mary A. B.
LAP RNY 3/22/03
Dr. Steve Weinstein, MD.
Mobile, Alabama
BMI 65/46
386/269-117LBS.
59 years old

I plan to decaffeinated myself prior to surgery, because even tho my
MD says I can have coffee, I am sure I cannot have all the powdered
creamer I put in it! I cannot drink it with one teaspoon of creamer,
so I might as well give it up along with the other things I will be
saying goodbye to! janet

What do you know ....IT'S ME!!!!!!!!!!!
Just 5 months and 1 Week and I have disposed of 107 pounds!!!!!! I am just
31-41 pounds from goal (125-115) and down to a size 12 (pretty close to a
10) from a 22!!!
I was shocked when I stepped on the scale this morning. I have not been
checking regularly and at last check I had two pounds to go. Now I am 7
over. I have been amazed by how fast this weight has come off of my body.
I feel like a completely different person some days. Happier I guess.
Definitely healthier. More a peace than I can remember being.
Oh and I have decided I am no longer going to use the words "lost" or
"losing" anymore. Both seem to infer that I might one day "find" something
again. Which I will not. So from now on when I use the word "disposed" you
will all know why.
Candi

hi if you go to this address you should have your answer. pam
www.sabariatic.com/revision_gastric_bypass.htm i hope this helps

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!
Alice hardestyal hardesty@...

from what i gather, the lower the inital BMI, the more gradual the w l. hang in
there, everything will fall into place, esp since you're
doing an awesome amount of legwork.
lori h.

Karon, Wednesday a.m., huh?! Every time I read that someone is close, I get
goose bumps. It's exciting! I do hope your blood pressure drops. Maybe
the medication will do the trick. That was the only pill they had me
continue after the surgery. I even took it the morning of the surgery.
Joan
LAP RNY 11/18/03
Dr. Higa, Fresno, CA
282pre-op/275surg/236/140

I have totally given up caffeine also. And you know what I don't even miss
it.
Pam

Andrea, Glad you're getting tested. If you didn't fast for the test
yesterday, that test is not what you need. It must be a fasting test.
Joan
LAP RNY 11/18/03
Dr. Higa, Fresno, CA
282pre-op/275surg/235/140
jclinton@...

Hi
For me I am not afraid or Dying or the life changes afterwards but
complications after surgery. Or something coming up at the last minute to
postpone
surgery. Like the flu or a cold... The doctor said it is perfectly normal. It
isn't
that I don't trust my doctor because I do but of things that can go wrong
afterwards like a leak or ect. I had gallbladder surgery 6 weeks ago and with
that I was in soo much pain I just wanted it out but was nervous then too. I
just want it over with... Roxanne
Michigan Friends Rescue Shelter
231-856-4668
www.mfrs.petfinder.org
morley, Mi. 49336
PLEASE HELP US HELP THEM BY MAKING A TAX DEDUCTIBLE DONATION. THEY THANK YOU
!

Hi everyone,
I am having my surgery on Thursday, Jan 22, at Geprge Washington University
Hospital in Washington, DC. Dr Brody in my surgeon. I am having a Lap RNY. I
have a couple of questions-
I am wondering about is I am suppost to travel to CA on Feb 29th for a week for
work. Anyone out there traveled that soon after surgery? If so, how was the
experience, any advice?
I am looking to hire a nursing assistant (CNA) for a week or two after my
surgery. Does anyone on this list know of one who I could use? If I could find
someone who has had this procedure it would be super.
CathysTheCook

Salmon, great source of protein...I use a recipe my granny used...it
is...
1 can of Salmon
2 eggs
some onion(adjust to taste...I use a lot)
some fresh garlic
crumbled up crackers(I use the low fat crackers with non salted tops)
make patties out of them, use a little oil...I tried Pam, but they
just get stuck to the pan...so just a very little oil...
We dip them in ketchup in our house...
Enjoy...
Hannah

I was wondering how fast and how long it can take to get authorized
by the insurance companies. I understand all insurances are
different, but has anyone had the authorization pass through quickly?

Dear Shannon,
I find that a lot of my behaviors and the way I eat parallel Rachel H. a
lot. I don't weigh frequently either, and usually only when I see my
doctors. I had occasion to see my doctor twice in the past two weeks.
I had boosted my protein as well recently and I'm one and a half years
out from my surgery. Just from adding one protein shake a day to my
regular routine, I've lost 7 additional pounds in two weeks.
live each day like it's your last... love like you've never been hurt...
Deb in Hazlet, NJ
"Debbie Dancer"
distal rny
September 3, 2002
386/205/165
BMI 60/30.3/24
-181
-100"
Angel to Bill, Debbie, Ilene, Roy, and Ro

I think I have some Biotin tablets around here somewhere. Is that what you
take...tablets? How do you take it....cut up, crushed, chewed?
Thanks.
Gina in CA
LAP RNY 07-17-03
324/225.75/130?

Thanks Brenda, I've forwarded the information.
Dear Mimi,
I know you wrote Rachel to question her about the 30 grams of protein,
but it's 30 grams of protein per MEAL, not per day. The best tasting
protein powder I've found is made by Champion and is called Pure Stack
Whey. It comes in five flavors: Chocolate, Vanilla, Strawberry,
Cocoa-moccachino and Banana-dream. It works out fairly reasonably on
the internet at about $24 (plus shipping) for a 5 lb. jug which lasts
for about 40 shakes or so. My personal favorite is the chocolate, but I
really like them all. They mix easily (I don't even use a blender).
You can add fruit if you like (I don't) or Davinci syrups and have
variety every day in addition to whatever food you are eating.
Dear Crystal,
(I think it was you but I could be wrong, who said you were adding extra
powder to your shakes and getting 87 grams or so per shake? If not you,
I'm addressing this to the person who is doing that): There is no
incentive to adding extra powder to a shake if you're bringing the
protein amount up over 30 grams per sitting. Unless you are an extre