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I am doing a research class in my degree program and need to get
some answers from anyone that will help me out. I won't be using
any names so don't worry that you will be giving information that
others may see. This survey is how people felt before surgery. .
Please answer the following questions in this manner so that I may
collect accurate information for my report. SA, A, D, SD, or DA, at
the end of each stated sentence.
Strongly agree Agree Disagree Strongly disagree Doesn't apply
(SA) (A) (D) (SD) (DA)
1. I have fought weight most of my life.
2. I use to feel ashamed around other people.
3. It was hard for me to look into the mirror.
4. I used to secretly eat.
5. I felt my physical and mental health suffered.
6. I felt like I was always dieting.
7. When I dieted, I gained it all back, plus some.
8. I felt that I tried every other option available to me.
9. Food was my escape from life and reality.
10. I thoroughly researched Bariatric Surgery.
11. I was/am ready to commit to a better way of life.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Tammy

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when the drainage comes out depends on the doctor I would think. My surgery was
on a wednesday. I stayed in the hospital till Sat. My drainage was removed the
following Wednesday. I had two visits fairly shortly after that and then 3
months, 6, months and yearly. It could be different depending on your doctor.
MIRIAM RODRIGUEZ <needprozak2000@...
pulled out?..and how often are the visitations?..mimi

i am 6 yrs post protein was hard for me to but .. tofu is the best you can put
it in shakes and food you eat it has no taste and takes on the flavor .. please
get your protein in i have in larged spleen because of it and low platelits
lost alot of blood during child birth because of low iron...
Pat Keller <pbkeller@...
Lisa F: Unlike myself, I see a lot of people are tired after surgery. 4 days
post op I was walking a mile in the morning and a mile in the evening... and
this for someone who always had an anchor tied to her butt.
WORD OF CAUTION: Tell your doctor!!!! If the tiredness set in 6 days post
op.... there is a SMALL chance something may be wrong. When a coworker went to
have staples out, she expressed to her doc a sudden tiredness. Seems she had
carried groceries into the house and thought she pulled something in her abdomin
and layed around for a few days to 'rest' it. She was immediately sent to the
ER for tests and admitted to ICU. Turns out the laying around created a blood
clot that broke off and lodged in her lung. If she had driven the 200 miles
back home after the appt, she would not have made it. I dont mean to scare you,
but you should report any changes to your surgeon.
No matter how tired, be sure to walk, walk, walk when awake. Take all the naps
you need, but be sure to walk so the blood in your legs keeps circulating and
the above doesnt happen to you.
Pat

when should the drainage be pulled out?..and how often are the
visitations?..mimi

Lisa F: Unlike myself, I see a lot of people are tired after surgery. 4 days
post op I was walking a mile in the morning and a mile in the evening... and
this for someone who always had an anchor tied to her butt.
WORD OF CAUTION: Tell your doctor!!!! If the tiredness set in 6 days post
op.... there is a SMALL chance something may be wrong. When a coworker went to
have staples out, she expressed to her doc a sudden tiredness. Seems she had
carried groceries into the house and thought she pulled something in her abdomin
and layed around for a few days to 'rest' it. She was immediately sent to the
ER for tests and admitted to ICU. Turns out the laying around created a blood
clot that broke off and lodged in her lung. If she had driven the 200 miles
back home after the appt, she would not have made it. I dont mean to scare you,
but you should report any changes to your surgeon.
No matter how tired, be sure to walk, walk, walk when awake. Take all the naps
you need, but be sure to walk so the blood in your legs keeps circulating and
the above doesnt happen to you.
Pat

Hi, Have you tried the new Slim Fast drink ?
It has 20 grams of protein and only 2 grams of suger.
It tastes pretty good .
Bonnie R
Open RNY
Aug. 6 , 2003
313/222/150
Dr Lane BTC
Ypsilanti, Mi
czbrat81 <beachbabi@...
I have found a couple brands that I like.
Adkins Advantage shake, I usually get them in Chocolate Royal and
Creamy Vanilla. They have 20 grams protien to 1 gram of sugar
EAS Advant Edge Carb Control shake it's 15/0. They make the standard
flavors (again, I usually get chocolate/vanilla), but they also make
2 juice forms. I think they were Citrus Splash and Mixed Berry.
Carb Solutions High Protein Drink. It's 21/1.
Carb Solutions is a little bit less expensive than Adkins, but I
usually stock up on both, and I've found all three at WalMart
SuperStores.

Hi, i have a friend who has had the gastric bypass surgery done. She
has a
huge amount of skin left hanging. I was wondering. Did you have
surgery
to
remove it, or did you do something while losing the weight to stop it
from
doing that? I'm thinking of getting it done. If theres something i
should do
while losing i would love to know.
Thanks,
Paula

Rose, dear . . .
You said "I need to stay away from carbs and sugar", but don't you know that 1
cup of 2% milk cantains 12 grams of sugar? That's twice my limit for
sugars/meal. It makes me dump. It prolly would have made you dump, if you
hadn't been drinking it for aome time.
PLEASE go to Vitalady.com, get some good quality protein shakes, with which you
can get in 30 grams of *PROTEIN*, and 5 grams of sugar or *less*. Depending on
what you choose/like, many have no sugar. They concentrates contain a little
sugar, but I find them more satisfying . . .
The milk will bit you in the butt (ok, more literally, it will stick to your
butt!) eventually.
Rachel, who wants you to be *very* successful!
From: Megan Sysen <hotlilchick027@...
Subject: RE: eating post op
i am not sure exactly how much i drink. I just know that i dont like
to eat much but have no problem drinking milk. for the last two days I
have drank more water less juice but about the same milk. By the way I
drink 2% milk. I think I know what I need to do. I need to keep a
journal to help me see exactly what I am consuming. I need to stay away
from carbs and sugar. I need to start a walking routine. I went
shopping yesterday and bought alot of fruits, veg, and soups. I think this
will help. Thanks for the support.
Rose
Rachel Hawkridge in Washington State.

Hi Rose! :) One thing I couldn't believe as I was learning to
read food labels was that SUGAR is in everything...and to my
surprise even milk! I really didn't realize before surgery all
that sugar out there...LOL :)
I don't drink milk at all myself now, I do enjoy Choc. Carb
Countdown though.
Just my .02! :)

Jason, We've not met, but I just have to say.. Power To ya! You
stand by your beliefs and hold on to your friends. And even when
things might seem dark.. never forget you have people who care and
support you......Tita (Sorry about the odd spacing in here.. my
Enter key has decided not to play nice!)

hi
i/had lap rny in oct now i am stuck at 70lbs and feel like no
more will come off!! iam losing my mind thinking what iam doing
wrong? how much carbs are we supposed to have a day? i eat
eggs with cheese for the protein. i cant get into the shake deal.
they
full me up real quick and then in a short while i get hungary
again.
somebody please let me know what iam doing wrong? i didnt go
through all of this for just 70lbs i have about 60 more to go.
thanks guys
maria
lap rny
10/1/03
300/230/170
5'6"

I live in Tri Cities Washington. Any one close to here?
Rachel Hawkridge <rayehawk@...
I'm in Kenmore, a little town on NE shore of Lake Washington (Seattle area).
Are you in Blaine, or one of the other little towns up there?
Rachel
From: Shannon Breivik <lilcomfycouch@...
Subject: Re: Phyllis asked about protein shakes
Where abouts in Washington do you live? I live in the
PNW area, right on the canadian border.
Shannon
Rachel Hawkridge in Washington State.

I have found a couple brands that I like.
Adkins Advantage shake, I usually get them in Chocolate Royal and
Creamy Vanilla. They have 20 grams protien to 1 gram of sugar
EAS Advant Edge Carb Control shake it's 15/0. They make the standard
flavors (again, I usually get chocolate/vanilla), but they also make
2 juice forms. I think they were Citrus Splash and Mixed Berry.
Carb Solutions High Protein Drink. It's 21/1.
Carb Solutions is a little bit less expensive than Adkins, but I
usually stock up on both, and I've found all three at WalMart
SuperStores.

JOdi my friend in weight lost wonderer land. it is a wonder if any of us
every get to have surgery I am telling you this because I have fought with
my hubbys ins for almost 2 yrs and i finally get the ok not in writting but
in words and then i have an infection that needs to be gone first...and
thank God for everyone i know in here and my other groups they helped me
understand you do not wanty infection going into surgery....well with that
said . i am here to let you know appeal appeal and apeal because the more
you
call the more you talk to your inc people they will see it your way.write a
letter to your inc company and ask them what you will need to get it
done.have your family doctor write a letter in your behavlf and then send
them an appeal letter i have a couple that i got rom others in groups i am
in and send them what other things that are wrong with you...then let them
send you a NO again then you get your self a lawer then go from there. a
good one is at obesitylaw.com

Lisa, your body is saying.... I need to rest. So, do it. You just had
major surgery and your body will be sending all sorts of messages. Take
a walk every couple hours then another nap. Your body can heal when you
are resting and sleeping. For bout 10 days, I was sleeping alot. It's
ok. Drink and walk when you can :) It will change over time and you
won't need that nap at all eventually.
Susan

This is all too familiar...i was exhausted, but I slept when I felt I
needed to sleep...thank goodness for PBS for my 4 year old, it kept
him occupied while he would lay down next to me...my suggestion is
sleep when you feel you need to...but when you are awake make sure you
are walking and getting your fluids in...around three weeks out i
started the sublingual b-12 and felt a hundred percent better...hang
in there, and listen to your body!
Hannah

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Hi, Shannon -
I'm in Kenmore, a little town on NE shore of Lake Washington (Seattle area).
Are you in Blaine, or one of the other little towns up there?
Rachel
From: Shannon Breivik <lilcomfycouch@...
Subject: Re: Phyllis asked about protein shakes
Where abouts in Washington do you live? I live in the
PNW area, right on the canadian border.
Shannon
Rachel Hawkridge in Washington State.

I had the surgery on Monday (2/16) and came home on
Wednesday. I've slowly been getting better. Then today when
I woke up (day 6 post-op) I am soooooo tired. I'm trying
to get up and get my movement in and my food, but I could
seriously sleep all day. At first I attributed this to the surgery,
but now I am wondering if I have a bug that has been going through
my house that left my DD vomiting and DH with diareah. I too have
diareah. Not vomiting though. Just profound tiredness.
So I'm wondering from the other post-ops
How long before you were feeling better?
and
Did you have days that you seemed to go backwards in recovery?
Is anything I described familiar?
TIA
LisaF

I don't think you are shrinking, I do think that your protien shakes are
satisfying the 'fill factor'. If you are substituting a shake for food
at a meal, this keeps your 'fill factor' at bay. I like to do this from
time to time myself, and keep me "In toe" with my new tool. I do this
to remember that it's only a tool and if I eat too much and abuse it, it
will get larger with time. Normally, the pouch will grow from 2 oz size
to an 8-10 oz. size after a couple years.
The same thing happens even if there is no surgery with a normal
stomach. A shake for a meal gets to be just enough to satisfy and when
the food comes in, the person eats less.
Keep up the good work!!! You've progressed incredibly.
Susan

I was wondering if this has happened to anyone here? Last week I started
doing
1 shake for breakfast a small lunch and a shake for dinner and when i do eat
I can only eat a couple of bites maybe 4 or 5 and I use to be able to eat
like 9 or 10 bites. Is this my stomach shrinking? Dont get me wrong i love
it but I am curious...
Vanessa
Miami FL
370/153/130

Felicia
I also have UHC. Co-workers of mine, all w/BMI over 50, were also denied on
first request. It seems to be routine. You may want to call the member 800
number on the back of your card and ask for Care Coordination. They are the
ones who approve/deny requests. I had a good experience talking to them. They
DO need letters of medical necessity. Im glad I called ahead. I listed all my
co-morbidities (diabetes, hypertension, sleep apnea, high cholesterol, acid
reflux, joint pain from back and knee surgeries, stress incontinence, plantar
fasciatis, varicose veins); listed all the rx meds I hoped the surgery would
eliminate (insulin, glucotrol xl, glucophage, cozaar, lasix, potassium, lipitor,
celebrex, nexium, raniditine) and the hopes of reducing my risk for stroke,
heart attack, blindness, renal failure and other diabetes related disorders;
adding expected resulting benefits (endurance, pain reduction, appearance, self
image, overall better health).
My BMI was only 37 and I was approved in a record 48 hours.
The more you can lay on them, the more you show you want this surgery for health
reasons and not cosmetic reasons. This will also help your surgeon's staff
present a complete case to UHC for you. UHC also wants to see a history of
previous diet attempts. Put on your thinking cap and go way back. Dont omit
anything. I began with 'remember metracal in cans in the late 1960s-early
1970s.' I listed every attempt at weight watchers with approx dates, if only
the approx year. I listed every time I talked a doc into diet pills, every time
I tried to lose weight.
If you or anyone wants to see my attachments, email me off the list and I will
be glad to send them to you. Anything to help.
Now, on the downside, I read an article in the Palm Beach Post 2 weeks ago that
said UHC, Humana, Centra all discontinued coverage for gastric bypass and that
Blue Cross Blue Shield of Florida would discontinue in January 2005, and that
Aetna was the only insurance company still approving coverage. The link in the
paper was only good for 7 days without paying for an archived article, but I
saved it. Again, anyone interested can email me off the list. The reasons were
purely economical. I only hope they dont become liable for risks involved from
not having the surgery.
On a side note, I found and saved a link for future use. It is a compilation of
appeal letters to insurance companies covering everything from the WLS to
plastic surgery. http://mygastricbypass.com/appeals.htm
I hope this helps you or others. Do not give up; but do not go in unprepared.
Be Well
~~Pat~~
252/209/160

I needed to inform you all that my sister passed away on the 16th of feb...
please donot send her anymore email if you need to email me @
Babygirl456622002@...
Diane <bubbles_9832000@...
day is just about here yeah for you!!!!!!! Mine is still 2 weeks away, so best
wishes & I will see you soon on the loosing side!!!!!!!!!
wasia nahshal <cznwa2004@...
my prayers.I wish you an uneventful surgery and a speedy recovery.God bless you
and your precious daughter.LOL Wasia
LAP RNY
12-17-03
Dr, Waldrep
304/269/???
rn4maknme@... wrote:
Well tomorrow is the big day---we are supposed to get up to 8 inches of snow
tongiht wouldnt you know---so it may be a challenge but we will get there.
Please say a special prayer for us if you will---some for me but mostly for the
people taking care of my daughter during this time. She can be very scary to
take care of with her illnesses and has never been away from mom for than 2
hours at the most her entire life. Just pray that all goes smoothly and I will
let you all know how it goes-----Cindy in VA---pre-op 2/16 300lbs

Oh My. I`m so sorry to hear. Does anyone know what happened? Did she die in
surgery?
Alice hardestyal hardesty@...

I would like for someone who has fought the battle with Insurance
comepanies to please email me with information that I need to gather
and take with me to my intitial consultation. Or let me know what I
personally need to mail to the insurance comepany. They have already
told me they will cover the surgery with predetermination letters
from my doctors. Any advice, tips, info would be so greatly
appreciated.

Ok just some other things to think about. The amout of protien your body will
absorb is about 30g per sitting. BUT that also depending on your blood work.
If your Numbers are off for example B1 B6 I think there are cdouple more
vitamins. But those determine how well your body will break down absorb and Use
the protien. If you are not up to par with all your other levels you wont absorb
the full values no matter how much you drink. So for anyone who is a fairly
new post op I would advise getting blood work done by at least 2 months. My 1st
set of labs was done 6 weeks out then at 12 weeks i just had more labs drawn
and will have blood drawn every 2-3 months. If my weight loses slows to a
plateau or I am sick additional bloodwork will be done. By keeping all your
numbers in the ranges they should be you will get the most from the protien.
Cori\
11-17-03
open RNY
318/247/140's

Not all insurances are as strict when it comes to
proving that you had previous diet help. Maybe just a
list of home diets and their results are enough to
satisfy them. Check with your insurance.

Where abouts in Washington do you live? I live in the
PNW area, right on the canadian border.
Shannon

HEY JODIE,I HAVE U. HEALTHCARE ALSO AND I GOT APPROVED THE FIRST
TIME.BUT I ALSO HAD SLEEP APNEIA AND THAT HELPED ALOT. BUT IF YOU
HAVE A REALLY GOOD DOC. THEY CAN GET YOU APPROVED. I USED DR. BRYAN
FREEMAN IN ANNISTON,AL. BOTH HIM AND HIS STAFF ARE GREAT. HE HAS HAD
IT DONE AND SOME OF HIS STAFF , SO THEY ALL KNOW WHAT YOU'VE BEEN
THROUGH AND ARE GOING THROUGH. I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND HIM. PHYLLIS

Felicia: Sounds like your insurance lady just gave you a tip worth its
weighty in gold. Go see your primary care doctor. Explain why you want
this surgery... then ask for a letter of medical necessity. If you see more
than one doctor, see each of them and ask for the same. The more letters
you have when you select a surgeon, the more the coordinator will have when
submitting your request. I even had one from my Ear,Nose,Throat doc. Due
to acid reflux he treated me for.
Go to http://www.obesityhelp.com/ , read as much as you can online. Search
any question you have. Read surgeon's credentials, how many by pass
surgeries he has performed, read testimonials, email some of his patients.
Set up a folder in your favorites labeled "Gastric Bypass" and drag
everything you think you may want to look at again there; I guarantee you it
cant be found the second time around sometimes. Make calls to surgeons you
may be interested in and ask that an info packet be mailed to you. Sort
through them and find a program you feel comfortable with. This is a major
surgery, severing a major organ essential to life.
Getting off the fence is a good feeling. I found myself so excited with
every piece of information I gleaned, but I went in well informed.
Good Luck to you
~~~Pat~~~
AIM: PBK911
MSN: MissConduct51
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun. (Katherine Hepburn)

thanks debbie, the question is open to anyone. info has been very helpful..mimi
Debbie D <zoes.mom@...
information.
Dear Mimi,
I know you wrote Rachel to question her about the 30 grams of protein,
but it's 30 grams of protein per MEAL, not per day. The best tasting
protein powder I've found is made by Champion and is called Pure Stack
Whey. It comes in five flavors: Chocolate, Vanilla, Strawberry,
Cocoa-moccachino and Banana-dream. It works out fairly reasonably on
the internet at about $24 (plus shipping) for a 5 lb. jug which lasts
for about 40 shakes or so. My personal favorite is the chocolate, but I
really like them all. They mix easily (I don't even use a blender).
You can add fruit if you like (I don't) or Davinci syrups and have
variety every day in addition to whatever food you are eating.
Dear Crystal,
(I think it was you but I could be wrong, who said you were adding extra
powder to your shakes and getting 87 grams or so per shake? If not you,
I'm addressing this to the person who is doing that): There is no
incentive to adding extra powder to a shake if you're bringing the
protein amount up over 30 grams per sitting. Unless you are an extreme
body builder, the most any individual can absorb in one sitting is 30
grams at a time. By doing what you're doing, all you are doing is
wasting powder and money. Keep your intake to 30 grams at a time...
live each day like it's your last... love like you've never been hurt...
Deb in Hazlet, NJ
"Debbie Dancer"
distal rny
September 3, 2002
386/205/165
BMI 60/30.3/24
-181
-100"
Angel to Bill, Debbie, Ilene, Roy, and Ro

In a message dated 1/9/2004 10:45:34 PM Central Standard Time,
tmk32003@... writes:
I know and am so glad the rest of you have felt the same thing!
Aliens abound!!! :)
TMK32003,
I had to laugh when I read this. Everytime my db watches a sci fi movie
with those alien things moving around I think about it, lol.
Wolfie
"Keep Em Laughing!"

In a message dated 1/9/2004 10:45:31 PM Central Standard Time,
jclinton@... writes:
For whoever suggested using zucchini in place of noodles for lasagna, it's
wonderful. Made some tonight and it was so good. Of course, I made enough
to last me for a month. I made the family the regular stuff, but think if
they tried mine they would like it too.
Joan
Well the good thing about making to much is you can always freeze it girl and
have it later. I know that if you have one of those vacuum seal kitchen
appliances to seal the food in it is wonderful then freeze it. Will keep so much
longer.
Wolfie
"Keep Em Laughing!"

In a message dated 1/9/2004 7:12:12 PM Central Standard Time,
mmgood010469@... writes:
That's so funny that you mentioned "Alien"...my stomach makes so much noise
after I eat or drink that I told my husband, just last night, I think an alien
might pop out of me like in the movie!
Anyway, shifting feelings for me...just lots of loud noises!
-Gina in CA
I know what you mean Gina, lol.
Wolfie
"Keep Em Laughing!"

Rice is a no no. If I eat a taco I eat corn shell, flour is to much carbs
and sits very heavy on my stomach.
Pam

ENJOY THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I wish for you..."
Comfort on difficult days,
Smiles when sadness intrudes,
Rainbows to follow the clouds,
Laughter to kiss your lips,
Sunsets to warm your heart
Gentle hugs when spirits sag,
Friendships to brighten your being,
Beauty for your eyes to see,
Confidence for when you doubt,
Faith so that you can believe,
Courage to know yourself,
Patience to accept the truth,
And love to complete your life.
God Bless you!
I asked the Lord to bless you
As I prayed for you today
To guide you and protect you
As you go along your way....
His love is always with you
His promises are true
No matter what the tribulation
You know He will see us through
So, when the road you're traveling on
Seems difficult at best
Give your problems to the Lord
And God will do the rest.
Pass this to 7 people you want God to bless, and don't
forget to send it back to the one who asked God to bless you first.
Stacy Beck
Petra Fashions Lingerie Consultant
Galesburg,IL.
Gastric bypass surgery date is FEB 18,2004
409.1/405.8( as of Dec.12.2003)/195(someday)
myhumingbird@...

I cant believe its taken me so long to update on my surgery but I
had surgery! December 4th, 2003. Im now 5 weeks postop, (Lap RNY) My
scars are healing brilliantly, Ive had no problems, and my doc just
put me on solid foods. I actually went to a restaurant for dinner
tonight without incident. In fact the only "problem" I have is the
burping. I was never much of a burper before surgery but boy, I
could win a competition now with my burping!
Ive had a few incidents of regurgitation and one or two throwups but
nothing too awful.
I do have some questions about food though for the experts out there
because the literature out there is so contradictory. I see recipes
that contain pasta, bread, rice, and tortillas. I thought we as wls
postop people werent allowed to eat these foods. I have read that
toast is ok but soft bread not. And to overcook the pasta and rice
and toast the tortillas so theyre not completely soft. So would
quesadilla's be ok to eat with a good filling? Ive also seen WLS dip
recipes with chip recommendations for dipping. I have also seen
protein pasta for sale. Would that be better than regular pasta?
Are these things only ok to eat after 6-12 months postop or after
youve lost all your weight?
Otherwise all is well, Im losing weight steadily, my doc is happy,
Im happy and Im feeling well.
Greer
302 preop
270 5 weeks post op
Lap RNY

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In a message dated 1/10/04 10:39:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,

maria, keep us posted. dr de la cruz is a phenomenal, kind, &
dedicated doc, he'll get the job done. & i'm @ Cedars every month &
he has a great following. hang in there hunny.
lori h.
in south florida, too

welcome home, sunny, you're sounding great for a week out. keep it up!
lori h.

It's a little bit high. But again I doubt it is the reason for the weight
gain. More than likely the blood pressure is due to the weight gain. But
you seem very stressed and that can cause your blood pressure to elevate as
well.
Candi

Kris,
Glad you're getting back in the groove now. Just remember not to overdue it.
If you feel like you need a rest, then take one.
The film on your tongue you're experiencing may or may not be from the protein
drinks. I found that I had the same problem when I first came home after
surgery. I think it's from all the drugs in the hospital and any new
prescription drugs you might be taking. For me, I think it was the Nutrinate
chewable vitamin I was taking. There is a toothpaste and mouthwash called
Biotine that works great. It's a little expensive, but definitely worth it. I
also used one of those tongue scrapers too. If you can't afford the Biotine,
get some of that new citrus flavor Listerine. It's a lot milder as far as the
stinging goes, so you can swishit in your mouth a lot longer. Good luck getting
rid of "the tongue".
Gina in CA
LAP RNY 07-17-03
324/228.75/130?

Glad to hear you are doing well. Eating and drinking is hard the first
couple of weeks. Just keep hydrated and keep trying. Don't get
discouraged. It will get better I promise!!!!
Candi

Ketosis is an abnormal amount of ketones in your body usually in
diabetics.......I have never known of ketosis to cause a white
coating on the tongue, but I deal with many cases of thrush... which
is fungal and is identified by white patches on the tongue. The only
way to get rid of this quickly is an antifungal script from your doc.
Hope this helps
Angela

i got aproved..just waiting on consultation ans to set a date...

Kris,
I ate so many pintos and cheese during the soft food phase that I
try to block it out now. My son and I could eat at Taco Bell for less
than $4.00, I ate so much, I don't even want to look at another
container of them for a long time. Excellent source of protein. I
still eat beans, I just make them myself. As for the mashed potatoes,
they have made me sick since the beginning, especially the KFC ones,
but I hear many people who can tolerate them. For some protein, add
some grated cheese. String cheese is good too. I ate a lot of that,
always kept on hand anyways, b/c my kids love it. My dr. recommended
creamed soups, add a little protein powder and some cheese and you are
good to go. Good luck!
Hannah

Tami, what a wonderful observation!
" Something that happened
to me, also, was once my eating was so restricted, I realized just
how much I was self-medicating with food and all those emotions that
I could stuff down before just kept coming. In time you will find
different ways to deal with those emotions and find feeling that are
really good, too. "
I guess I hadn't put this together, that overnight we have to learn all
new ways to "comfort" ourselves. Good point!
Joan
LAP RNY 11/18/03
Dr. Higa, Fresno, CA
282pre-op/275surg/236/140

wELL ONCE AGAIN I WAS IN CHAT AT THE TIME SCHEDULED AND ONLY A TWO
OTHER PEOPLE WERE THERE TONIGHT, I KNOW WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN LIVES AND
WERE BUSY NOW THAT SOME OF US HAVE LOST OUR WEIGHT BUT FOR THOSE THAT

Sorry, I had to laugh when I read your story, as I am losing weight I
have vowed not to buy clothes from retail stored yet. I have been
strictly shopping at thrift stores, except one pair of jeans(my bro
gave me money to buy...he was tired of my clown pants)...anyway, of
course at thrift stores, there are so many brands and i am just going
into an 18, 20's are baggy, but for whatever reason some of the 18's
don't fit...how frustrating!! I ended up buying a couple of pairs of
work pants that are of course snugger than i want them to be and i was
so mad at myself for the minor thrift store indulgence and for
thinking that they would fit...now I am quite sure that Lee is not the
only one to watch out for...shame on them!!
Hannah

yeah!!!! Feels great, it is weird the way it happens for me...as much
as i vow not to weigh myself I still do everyday!! Congrats!!!!
Hannah

Congrats!! one step closer!!
Hannah

Have you tried one of those tongue cleaners they sell in the toothpaste aisle
etc..at Walmart or the drug store? Might work. Worth the try.
faith

Congrats Starlet!!
Candi

Hi all,
I had my first weigh in yesterday. The day after surgery I
was 332 but at the docs office yesterday I was 308!! I
know about 10 lbs of that is fluids and gases from the
surgery but Im still counting it. So my first loss is 24
lbs!!! Yay me! He also took off the steri-strips and the
wounds dont look too bad.
Also, I have a question about drinking/eating. I know Im
supposed to take 10 min per ounce but I really could drink
a cup of liquid in a half hour. Is this bad? My doc told
me to start on soft food so I went to the store and got a
low-sugar flavored non-fat yogurt (Dannon Light and Creamy)
and had that with one scrambled egg. I stretched it out so
it took an hour to eat and then had half a protein shake to
supplement the rest of the protein for my day. I didnt
drink a half hour before or after my dinner. No problems
with it at all. I ate slowly b/c Im supposed to but I
think I could have eaten faster. Is this bad??
I guess my real problem is this. Since surgery, I havent
felt hungry. But when I drink, I never get that full or
stuffed feeling Ive heard other post-ops talk about. So
how do I know when Ive had enough?? I know what a
reasonable portion is at this point in my diet, but I just
dont feel my pouch reacting to anything I put in it and it
kind of scares me. Before surgery, I definitely knew when
I was full. But since, I just dont seem to feel hungry,
full, or even moderate. How do I gauge myself? If I can
eat faster, should I? Suggestions??
Thanks,
Kris
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Wolfie, wonderful idea about the vacuum seal bags. I always forget I have
one. I wanted to freeze it in small portions. I did notice it was soupier
than the regular lasagna, guess because there weren't noodles to soak it up.
Joan
LAP RNY 11/18/03
Dr. Higa, Fresno, CA
282pre-op/275surg/236/140

I just need to make a statement regarding Lori H. I have not paid
much attention to the "Mandy" situation, but I know that Lori got
hurt and I don't like it. We are lucky we have her. I know
personally she has been a tremendous help to me when she really
doesn't have to give a damn. She's always there for all of us! I bet
there are 100s of people out there that she has helped get through
surgery, pre and post. All of us should be thanking her profusely!!!
Anyway - - - - I tried turkey sausage last night and it was really
good and went down well. I cooked it in spaghetti sauce with extra
onions, italian seasonings and garlic and it was great! Didn't
bother cooking pasta, can't really deal with it anymore, I get
stuffed immediately, but that's okay!!!! I'm feeling great, no hair
loss yet, but I'm pushing protein in me like crazy and hope this will
prevent the hair loss. I tried two chocolate covered Macadamia nuts
(first sugar/chocolate since surgery) and NO PROBLEM!!! I would
imagine if I had a handful I'd have had a problem, but it's nice to
know that if I get my chocolate cravings back, I can have a little
piece of chocolate without getting sick.
I am proud and delighted to tell you all that after 15 years, I no
longer need to shop in the "large ladies" departments!!!! I can wear
16s some 14s and am on the verge of size 12 in some pairs of pants.
It's awesome, but you know, yesterday I was looking around Good Will
and tried on a cute top that was an 18/20 automatically, and it was
too big. In otherwords, I still go for the large size clothes
first. Hope to break that soon.
LoriB
RNYLAP 10/3/03
228/174/130

I am so happy theres more and more folks losing weight. I have lost
8 pds in the last 3 days since I started Meridia, with diet and
exercise. I am going for a 100 pds w/o surgery. The doctor doesn't
think it is for me. Yet! But I am still a loser so far. I signed a 2
yr contract with a gym so I damn sure aint quitting, LOL....
Again CONGRADULATIONS YOU BIG LOSERS LMAO!!! No really I am happy
for you all!
Andrea
1/17/04 243 pds
1/19/04 235 pds
Please lord dont let me scales be wrong! I called the doctor hes
talking bout lowering my dosage, lol I said Hell no!!

Tanya - You are in my prayers. My Mom was in a coma for 5 months
before she died. It's tough.
Have faith that if you follow your heart, you'll know how to be there
for him.
Jayne
Lap RNY w/ choly, 3/12/04

Lori, my cousin had the surgery Jan 2003 and told me she's
found an alternative pasta. It's actually spaghetti
squash. It's in the produce section at the grocery. She
cuts it in half the long way, seeds it, steams it (I
think), and then runs a fork down it the long way and
shreds it out of it's shell. Using a fork makes the squash
strips long and stringy like pasta. Pasta doesn't really
have a flavor anyway so it's a good substitute. Then she
puts diet spag sauce on it and has dinner. She gets some
veggies and mock pasta at the same time! And the squash
doesn't expand in the stomach like pasta so you won't get
full as quickly, and you'll be getting a healthy dinner.
Also, if you're watching the calories, I've found soy
ground meat to taste the same when mixed with spag sauce.
I haven't tried it post-op yet so I don't know if it's okay
for our new plumbing or now, but it might be a low-fat
alternative to spag sauce with real ground meat.
Take care and good luck,
Kris :-)
*********************
Anyway - - - - I tried turkey sausage last night and it was
really good and went down well. I cooked it in spaghetti
sauce with extra onions, italian seasonings and garlic and
it was great! Didn't bother cooking pasta, can't really
deal with it anymore, I get stuffed immediately, but that's
okay!!!!
LoriB
RNYLAP 10/3/03
228/174/130

I use a wheat pasta with sugar free sauce and I really love it
Allan
Lap Rny
12-15-03
312 / 270/?

I'm looking for a drink that you can pick up on the go,it don't have to be
protein.I don't drink anything carbonated anymore and I believe Gatorade is
loaded with sugar.The only thing that I found that you can really purchase at a
gas station or convenient mart is diet ice tea.I was wondering what else would
be good for on the go?
I don't like to have to use a thermos to put my crystal light in and I can never
find it in a mart.
Allan
Lap Rny
12-15-03
312 / 265 / ?
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I really enjoy the propel fitness water-flavored. I
get the berry flavored and it has 30 calories for the
whole bottle-I buy it all the time to take to the
movies.
Shannon

OK, another question.
Now that I can have soft food, I've heard that mashed
potatoes will work well. So I looked up KFC's mashed
potatoes and gravy nutritional info online. It looks like
I can have it without a problem. Low in fat, sugar, and no
cholesterol. However, there's no real protein advantage or
other real nutritional value. So should I eat it just
because I can? A smart eater would say no, I think. But
my food choices are so limited right now and I can't really
eat much anyway, I'm supposed to limit it to 1/4 cup. So
I'm also thinking, what's the harm?
Also, what kind of "soft foods" did you eat during this
phase? I'm trying to eat high protein soft foods so I can
cut back on the protein drinks.
One more question. I've heard we can have refried beans at
Taco Bell. Is that considered a soft food? I've never
been a bean person but they're supposed to be high in
protein so I thought I'd try it. But is it too soon?
Thanks for all your help everyone!
Kris
1/8/04
332/308/160

I buy Fruit 2 O by the case and take it with me everywhere and
that is also all I use when making my protein shakes. LOVE IT!
My favorite flavor is Berry Relaxing. No calories, no carbs, no
carbonation, sweetened with Splenda. I know that Walgreens
carries it, and some Sam's Clubs. I ordered mine online also
from www.veryfine.com
YUM YUM YUM! :)

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At this stage I ate a lot of Taco Bells beans/cheese. Yum. I
also started eating string cheese (7-8 grams of protein
depending on the brand)

I love cashews. I've actually gotten into a routine at night
where I eat cashews as a nighttime snack. YUM! :)

Hello everyone! Just starting my journey.... was told at my
consultation that my insurance carrier has been one of their
toughest... anyone get approved with Aetna PPO ????? I sure hope
so.... or I can't get the surgery done.... I weighed in at 260
yesterday, :(
Pray that I get approved!!
thanks

Hi Gina. yes, when you get time, please send the recipe!!! You can email me
privately, if you wish:yorkiegal2003@..., sherri

I'm going to be having surgery soon and would like to talk to some
experts if you know what I mean.
Thankyou: wrightwithus or wright232003@...

It's really simple, Allan . . . liquids wash the food outta the pouch, so that
you don't feel full, or you don't get full. One of the important things for us
to learn is the feeling of full . . . empty . . . full. Not grazing all day, so
we're never really empty, etc.
Rachel
<< From: Allan [mailto:apa@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 1:16 PM
To: Gastric_Bypass_Family
Subject: [Gastric_Bypass_Family] explanation
Ok can someone please explain to me the reason for the 30 minute
waiting
period between eating and drinking when post-op?
I have always waited at least 30 minutes after eating before
drinking,probably more,but I just want to know the reasoning behind
it..
Rachel Hawkridge in Washington State.

-
My question to you would be have been exercising religously since
your surgery? If you haven't been doing crunches & or sit ups the
stomach muscles and skin will never go away. It won't all go away,
but it will be reduced greatly. Depending on how heavy you were
before the surgery, you will probably need a tummy tuck to get rid
of all the excess skin.
Wendy
7/8/03
272.5/175/145?

Hi everyone -
I just got here...been awhile since I popped in, always fun to read
your posts...hope you all are doing well...so what's up with gelatin?
What do you guys do with it & what can I make with it that's yummy
(besides gummy bears)?
Angie
Open RNY
9/10/3
300/227/150?

Carol,
Something to think about ..... When was the last time you did mention to
your pcp you were dieting or was your pcp aware of you dieting in the
last year? This is the ticket if it has been observed as in some cases,
it is a medically supervised diet.
If nothing else, the last time you met with your pcp could be a date
where you were first put on your medically supervised diet also. So just
visit your pcp again soon and make sure that you are on one now and good
luck to you. Just keep trying.
Susan

I am 7 months out and still have my "pregnancy belly" as well. I've been
told that abdominal exercises like using an oblique machine or doing
crunches, etc., will help get rid of that. I work at the Curves near
where I live and we've just gotten in an oblique machine that is going
to be put into place next week. I can't wait to see if it works as well
as the other machines!!
Tanya T.
Lap RNY 6/20/03
432/279/170
Houston, Dr. Adam Naaman
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"I will find my way, I can go the distance. I'll be there someday if I
can be strong, I know every mile will be worth my while, I would go most
anywhere to fell like I belong."

I think this thing is finally working. Keeping my fingers crossed that I
get this back!!!!
Candi

Okay, I am so glad I found this group, I have so many things to ask.
Did any of you get resistance from your friends and family.
The only person that is "supportive" for me is my husband, and he is
worried about the surgery. My closest friend told me not to do it,
she said I shouldn't because it is elective. Well, if you mean by
electing to live, I guess you could call it whatever you want. So I
can't and won't talk to her. As far as she knows, I was declined
because of my insurance. I did not tell her that I will appeal. She
is about 40lbs over wt and I am scared to think that she may just be
jealous that I will one day be thinner that her. I think that is
kinda funny because I am more than 100lbs heavier than her now!
The hardest part is my family. I thought when I told my mom that I
was going to pursue this, she would be happy for me. Instead she was
upset. She doesn't want me to have it because of my younger sister.
She is afraid that I would hurt her feelings! I guess she assumes I
should sacrafice my health. I don't know, but it really hurt.
My younger sister, I love her so much. If I had to choose between me
and her I would choose her, not because she needs it anymore than me,
but because I love her sooo much. I just feel guilty when I talk to
her, because I know I have a better shot at WLS than her and I know
how badly she wants it. I really want it for my health. She is a
little more vain and I know she probably is most interested in being
thin. Not that I think that is bad. I mean I will be able to breath
and walk without difficulty (among other things). She will be able
to look in the mirror and smile. I don't know which one is better?
If I acutally get my appeal, I don't know how to tell her... I wish
I could just hide the wt loss :) Or find a way for her to get it too.
anyone with similar situations?

keep it up, awesome girl!
lori h.

My husband had gastric bypass Nov 2002. He has alot of loose skin.
Just wondering if anyone has had surgery to remove skin?

Hi Angie, Mandy led me to the gelatin, and I'm glad she did. I put a packet
of the unflavored gelatin in coffee or sugar-free hot cocoa. It dissolves
nicely and I can't tell any taste difference....and it gives me 6gm protein
in each packet. I think Mandy also said she puts it in bullion, Crystal
Light, and Sugar free Kool Aid. Just 2 packets a day adds 12 gms protein.
It's so easy, I almost feel like I'm cheating!
Joan
LAP RNY 11/18/03
Dr. Higa, Fresno, CA
282pre-op/275surg/236/140

I am on-line again!!!!!! Man I was having the DT's not getting any messages
from the group!!!!! Let the yakking begin!!!
Candi

Cindy,
I had the open done in October and my doctor didn't use staples. She
used the glue and my scar healed beautifully.
Jamie
Open RNY 10/13/03
303/237/160

I got approved in 48 hrs with Aetna PPO. You just have to really
have your ducks in a row. I submitted, PCP letter, Pysch eval,
Letter from a therapist I worked with for 8 years, and a very
comprehensive letter from my current nutrionist (she's a CNS, not
RD) that included full weight history, diet history, and her
personal recommendations. I heard Aetna was tough too, but then
others I spoke to shared my experience.
Good luck and GO FOR IT!
Jayne
Lap RNY w/ choly
3/12/04

Hi all,
Just wanted to say hello and let you all know that I am still here. I am on
the LOOOONG wait for insurance approval, and it isw kinda fustraiting cause at
480+ lbs, even walking can be a pain in the you know what. Anyway, I am going
to sit mith neices and nephews this afternoon, and so I will check back in
when I get back.
Yours in Weight Loss,
Jason

Wow, you certainly have a lot going on. I have experienced this
with my family at times. Interestingly, not about the surgery, but
about other things where I chose to take care of myself. I think it
upsets the family "apple-cart" as it were. I mean you are
challenging the status quo. I would really, really, really,
encourange you to just take care of yourself and try to ignore the
rest. It would be great if everyone else could support you, but
sometimes they truly can't. Not because they don't love you, it's
just that they are afraid of losing the person they know to someone
they think they won't know. As for your sister, why not be a role
model for her. I have a similar situation with my big sister. I
love her so much, but it's I know she has her own feelings about her
weight, etc. Even if I decided not to have the surgery, I can't
protect her from her own feelings.
I'm glad your husband is supportive. What I try to remember is that
it's MY job to stand up for myself and do what is right for me. No
one else can do that for me. Look for support where you know you
will find it. Here on the boards, maybe at your surgeon's support
group if they have one. I have also sought out counseling to help
with family situations.
My very best wishes to you. Your post touched my heart
tremendously. Be courageous and move forward!

I am in South Florida, but my surgeon has an office in Celebration Florida
(just outside of Orlando). It is called US Bariatrics and the surgeon who is
there is very good (was trained by the best). My surgeon (who trains other
doctors all over) actually had the surgery done, so he knows what to do and so
does the doctor at his other office. If you want to check out the website, it
is
www.usbariatrics.com. Best of luck
Mindi
277/173.5/125??
Size 26/28--
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Thanks Joan,
I just asked my PCP last April for a referral to a bariatric surgeon,
he was thrilled that I wanted to have a gastric bypass. Cigna lets
you go to the surgeon, even approved all the consults, pulmonary,
cardiology, (which lead to a very expensive cardiac cath),
psychologist, everything, then you find out about the 6 month diet
requirement! I think they should have you complete the 6 month diet
first, they would save money that way, and you wouldn't waste time! I
am going to see my PCP this week and see how close I am to finishing
it. I feel in my soul this is the right thing, I guess I just have
to be patient. Thanks so much for the hug!
Carol

Dr. Diaz is wonderful....It may be worth traveling to ft lauderdale for the
surgery and keeping your post op visits in celebration. I actually used Dr.
Marema as my surgeon, but I see dr. Diaz at my post op visits
Mindi
277/173.5/125??
Size 26/28--
Lap RNY 6/26/03

Hi Joan. With the Gelatin.
I can't eat the Jell-O everybody is talking about for religious reasons.
Are there any kosher places to buy bulk?
Where I can get and use
Really need to boost the proteins.
I think that would help the weight lost.
Thanks.
Jackie
Fowler62181@...

right, once in a while, i've picked up a 4 pack @ Target.
lori h.

hope u get approved, & soon. keep the faith, ignore the naysayers---
everyone said i would be denied, so glad they were wrong.
lori h.
20 grateful months out

HI Jason, Hopefully you won't have too long a wait! I thought that I would, and
I was approved in 4 days!!!! Where ar eyou from? I am about an houor north of
Pittsburgh, Pa...and it is FREEZING here!!!! We are to get a big storm later
today..sleet, snow, ice, rain....sounds lovely, huh?..and I am supposed to work
tonight!!!!! Stay warm, sherri

Jason - I'm also pulling for you as well. I was approved in 48
hours! Sending good wishes your way!
Jayne
Lap RNY w/ choly
3/12/04

Kris I would basically follow your dr. guidlines for what to eat. I
assume you are 2 to 4 weeks out.(Sorry I don't remember for sure) I
was told to not eat more than 2 ounce of protein at one time or more
than 1/2 cup of food. Remember your pouch is still healing so don't
drink more than 60 ounces of water in an hour. I am impressed, after
I had surgery I had to really work at getting my fluids in. Best of
luck.
Jill H.
276/224/140
10/20/03

Mary AB, I assume that you cook your spaghetti squash in the
microwave. Is that on a high setting?
Jill H.

Ok can someone please explain to me the reason for the 30 minute waiting period
between eating and drinking when post-op?
I have always waited at least 30 minutes after eating before drinking,probably
more,but I just want to know the reasoning behind it..
Allan
Lap Rny
12-15-03
312 / 265 / ?
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Absolutely nothing wrong with taking capsules, Stephanie, as long as they're
calcium citrate. Matter of personal preferences, basically. I do better with
capsules, and take a total of 3500 mg/day - 1000 w/lunch and dinner, 1500 at
bedtime. We are reported to absorb more calcium while we sleep than any other
time. Mostly, it's believed because our bones are not weightbearing at the
time.
<< From: Stephanie Armstrong <steph2004armstrong@...
Subject: Re: Re: Digest Number 1802
I take calcium tablets..I have noticed that no one else seems to be
taking them. Is there something wrong with taking them? I take many
vitamins each day including a prenatal vitamin (script form).
Thanks,
Steph
Rachel Hawkridge in Washington State.

Allan, my understanding(this is from my dr.) is that it washes the
food through your system too fast and you do not retain the nutrients
needed...also it can give you that "way beyond full feeling" and i
think it can make you sick...too much in the pouch...my dr.s saying is
"food and fluid don't mix"...that was one thing the dietician really
pushed on us...hard to get used to at first, but then one just gets
used to it, or at least I have. I wait a half an hour before and an
hour after(per my Dr.s advice) seems to work well for me. I also read
a post where someone said eat a tomatoe with your food, kinda makes
your mouth not so dry, so you will not crave that something to drink.
I usually eat some kind of fruit, tomatoe, or pickle, so I can have
something juicy and I don't crave the drink.
Hannah

That seems to be a big topic for everyone. I too have alot of loose skin.
But I am waiting to get to goal before I have it removed. I think most
doctors want you to wait anyway so you don't have to have it re-done again
later.
Is your hubby at goal?
Candi

We use a lot of ground turkey as well.....in fact just made some Wendy's Chili
using it!
YUMMMMY!! I think it taste much better than burger. Thanks for the Wendy's
reciepe, my hubby thinks I am a cooking genius!hehehe
Steph
jstreeboo <reev7056@...
OOOh!! I love it to! I have switched from ground beef to almost
exclusively ground turkey! It's SOOO much better for me! I use it in
spaghetti sauce, Turkey burgers and Taco's!!! It's GREAT!!
Trish

Different people always seem to have different reactions. I was lucky. I
had no negative reactions from anyone. Or if they had them they thankfully
kept them to themselves.
all you can do is what is right for you.
Don't worry too much about what others think. To some degree that's part of
what got us in this mess to begin with.
Candi

I think the simplified explanation is that liquids push the food out of the
stomach faster than the body can absorb the needed nutrients from the food
you have eaten.
Candi

I have been stuck between 310 and 303 for the last 3 to 4 weeks(9 weeks post
op today). I was having trouble getting in my protein but for the last week i
have gotten 80+ grams of protein and my 64+ ounces of water. I also ride the
exercise bike at least 15 minutes a day. It was more but things have been soooo
hectic around here thats all i can fit in right now! (Life with a 3 yr
old...LOL)
I did start yesterday and cut back to NOTHING but Liquids again. Yesterday I
did my shakes (which I mix with milk) and The juice from some chicken noodle
soup! I plan to do the same for a couple more days. Hopefully it will get
something kick started...but here is my question!
Preop I was on synthroid for my thyroids. My surgeon took me off of it until
I got my postop bloodwork done so they could recheck my levels fresh (without
meds) and get the right dosage I need post op...Preop my thyroids were REALLLY
off and my thyroid specialist says part of the reason I gained almost 100
pounds since the birth of my daughter 3 years ago! So now I am wondering if my
thyroids may be part of the reasoning behind this platuau at soooo early out?? I
have lost 62 pounds and very proud of that but I have been around that loss
for about 3-4 weeks now. Kind of discouraging to hit a brick wall.
Anyone have thyroid trouble preop that has caused such problems postop??
Thanks for taking time to read this and sorry if it doesn't make any sense.
Crystal
11/18/03
365/303/Anything under 300 for now...LOL

I am still on pureed diet and getting burned out easily.. Just wondering if
tuna, canned chicken, or baked fish are ok during puree diet. I have been
eating asparagus which is good, but potatoes are not my favorite. Anyway if you
can help please do so.
keri warren

I have been reading up alot on this surgery and I am going to the
doctor tuesday to get a physical and If you all think I am a
candidate then I will put this idea in his head! I am 5 ft 2 inches
tall, about 220 pds. But I don't look it, the only problem I have
with my body is my tummy from my 4 kids, it hangs to the floor!!! My
husband said I could get a tummy tuck next year, but before then I
want to be my ideal body weight so that the surgery will have great
results!! According to the BMI score I score a 40.2 which is high
risk. And according to the ideal body weight thingamajiggy I am 100
pds. overweight. Does anyone think I could get it??? Also I believe
I contracted a heart condition that runs in my family that the
doctor is going to check for me.
Andrea

Any bmi over 40 qualifies you for gastric bypass.I too didn't "look" like I
weighed 240,but I did and the fact of the matter is its not healthy .I'd say go
for it,then do a tummy tuck.Thats what I did and I feel great.
Ellen

Hi.
I was wondering if anyone was experiencing there feet and calves
going to sleep or getting tired on you. I had never had this problem
till I had surgery.
And now its and everyday thing. I have told both my PCP and Surgeon.
I have had countless blood test done and everything is normal.
I went to my support meeting last nite and someone mention that I
maybe gettin dehtdrated, But I get plenty of fluids in. Its just odd
that I had never had this problem. It is just kinda worrying me. If
any one else is experiencing this please let me know. I would
appreciate all the input I can get.
Leslie
11/18/03
220/180/120?
Dr.Chris Dyas
Providence Hospital
Mobile AL

i am wondering about being able to eat red meats some say follow what
the pouch says and then the doc says no red meat so i am now craving
RED MEAT! what can i do to sub for red meat????? can anyone help?

My feet and legs have been going to sleep too!! I'm so glad you
posted this question. I've been wondering about it. I know I
haven't been getting enough fluids, so maybe it does have something
to do with being dehydrated?
Leah Booth
306/263/135ish
RNY LAP 11/11/03

Hi Leslie,
I was having similar problems with tingling, numbness, and cramps. My doctor
prescribed Magnesium oxide. It is in the vitamin isle. It did me a world of
good. I take one a day.
By the way congrads on the weight loss. Keep up the good work.
Mary A. B.
LAP RNY 3/22/03
Dr. Steve Weinstein, MD.
Mobile, Alabama
BMI 65/43
386/268-118LBS.
59 years old

I had Refried Beans from Taco Bell. Those were good. I would eat chicken
just chop it up. I would do hard boiled eggs. You can have Peanut Butter also.
Hope this helps some.
Pam

I agree with the idea that Ground Rules should be posted up front.
This way everyone is clear as to what they are.

I know the goal here post op is to watch carbs,But im wondering if its ok for a
few carbs if using a 0 sugar product.I don't know why but when reading a label
im more inclined to buy a product that has 0 sugars instead of looking at
carbs.I think the reasoning behind this is that when your research begins into
WLS your are taught that sugars are bad and will make most dump,so when shopping
the dump fear kicks in and you go for a product that has a label that says 0
sugars.
I am getting allot better in the carb reading area and am sticking low carb but
every once in a while I have to wonder if its a 0 sugar product is it ok to have
those few carbs?
Allan
Lap Rny
12-15-03
312 / 270 /
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Hello Tammy,
Everyone loses weight at a different rate, each of our bodies is
unique. The other thing to remember is that it is normal to hit
plateaus. You have lost an average of ten pounds per month. It
sounds like you're getting plenty of exercice (definately more than
me:) and you say you eat the right food but I wonder how many
calories are you taking in a day? Have you had a followup recently
with your dr or nutrionist? I'm wondering what they have said about
your weightloss. One thing my nutrionist has told me is to add more
protein when I'm in a slump. Hang in there and I'm sure you'll get
lots of good responses from others on this board.
Take care!
Bridget Northam

I was only told to keep the sugar under 6 grams a meal and they never said
anything about watching carbs.
Pam

The reason for not drinking 30 min before and 30 min after eating is so
that your food stays in your pouch longer. This is going to keep you
more satisfied longer also. If you drink just before your food, the
liquid will make you fuller faster with only a few bites. If you drink
while you eat, it can easly wash away or wash down the food out of your
pouch, then when these things happen, you end up eating more in a little
while. This then can cause more weight gain in the long run.
keep it all in mind :) And one more thing... it takes 30 minutes for
your body to tell your head you are full. This is why we are taught to
eat slow, take smaller bites, chew each bite and put your fork down when
you eat a bite. Take the 20-30 minutes to eat your meals too. This
will help to not gorge ourselves.
Take care,
Susan

Hello all -
My name is Tony Spencer and I am a doctoral candidate in sociology
at Northwestern University. I'm writing because I'd appreciate your
sharing your views about weight loss surgery with me. If you're
interested in helping me, please e-mail me at
tonyspencer@... and I will send you a brief
questionnaire. Also, if you'd like to speak with me directly, my home
number is 312-503-8020. Thank you for your time and help. Have a
great day.
Cordially,
Tony Spencer

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She is 23.
These are not all of her medical conditions, but these are the
conditions which , besides obesity, are effected by the surgery. We
are aware that they are effected by WLS, and certainly will greatly
improve if not be gone, with the exception of JRA which is an
Autoimmune Disease and will only reduce the weight on the damaged
joints which continues to occur over time. One of the recient
recommendations was Remicaid. This is basically an IV chemotherapy
similar to what is done for cancer patients. The idea (which coes
work) is shutdown the immune system and allow for short term relief.
We hope that at 23 she has not come to that drastic a measure.
She is a medication nightmare, and has always been. What is was on
for the past 4 months has changed again because they hold no long
term relief for her.She has a standing appointments with one of her
doctors for whenever she comes home, no matter what time or what
day. She