Gastric Bypass Weblog

thanks! i'll go there now

deb go to the pacific bariatric sight and they have a list of there
meetings and lots of other things you might be interested in
bye shirley

has anyone heard of this stuff...konjac glucomannan pasta? it
supposedly has no carbs and is a good pasta sub. where do you get
this stuff?
deb
open RNY 3/5/04 - Cedars Sinai Med Ctr, Los Angeles
357/292/150

When I refered to lap surgery I meant lapriscopic gastric bypass.
Good luck sunflower on yours in June. Best Wishes,
Bethany

I dont think her problem is finding a wls surgeon. I believe the problem is
finding a primary care/family doctor that will provide the referral to a wls
surgeon.
~~Pat~~
Orlando, FL
252/189/160 (-63)
BMI 37.2/28.5/23.6
52 Years Young
LAP-RNY 12/10/03
Wayne English, MD
Ft Lauderdale, FL
Message: 3
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 16:42:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Debbie Swansburg <debbasue8@...
Subject: Re: DOCTOR REFUSA;
go to obesityhelp.com to find a doc in your area ... you live in a highly
populated megalopolis and between baltimore, philadelphia and washington, dc
there are definitely going to be doctors willing to do the bypass operation
debbie swansburg
parisb4470 <paris.borden@...
MY FAMILY DR. REFUSED TO GIVE ME A REFERRAL. I'M 5'4" 287LBS. NO
OTHER HEALTH PROBLEMS OTHER THAN THE DEATH OF MY MOTHER @ 876LBS.
CAN SOMEONE REFER ME A DR. I LIVE IN BALTIMORE, MD

I live in Canton, Ohio. Thank you for all of your inside info.
Tomato soup is a no-no until 2 months out of surgery according to my
doctor. I have AIM and wanted to know if you do too. Anyone can IM
me and I would really appreciate it. My AIM is MSUBeffy19. Look
forward to more talking with you all!
Bethany

i notice that alot of people say they had there lap surgery. No i was
just wondering if they meant lap band , or laposopic gastric bypass
which is what i am having on june 23, 2004

I'm just wondering if anybody else has this problem. I'll get down
to the low numbers in a certain weight like 173 or 183 and I can't
seem to break down into the next level of weight. Such as 168 or
178. Seems like when I want to get to that next set of numbers it
really sticks. Is this just a me thing? That fat really wants to
hang in there!

I live in Murrieta, California.
does anyone know of a support group that's close?
deb
open RNY - Cedars Sinai Med Ctr
357/292/150

Hi Bethany,
Congratulations!!!! Where in ohio are you, if you don't mind me asking? I
had my open RNY at St. Vincent Charity Hospital in Cleveland, Ohio on April 23,
2004. So I was 6 weeks post-op yesterday.
Your question about the gas made me laugh. Sorry hun, it's just that I've
been experiencing so much gas it's embarrasinng. Thought I was going to
blow-up. I had just checked with my nurse the other day and she said it was
very
normal for gastric bypass patients to have a lot of gas and it was okay to take
such things as Gas-X, Beeno, Phayzame. So I'm getting used to Gas-X and
actually it's starting to get better. I would eat tomato soup and cream of
chicken
soup mostly when I was on full liquids.
Your other question isn't anything many of us haven't thought about but
didn't ask...lol. Before surgery I didn't even care about intimacy but now that
I'm out and the incision is healed, 25# lighter and feeling so much better look
out...lol. Let's just say I'm looking forward to getting back to that part of
my life.
Well again, congratulations on your surgery and I hope you have a great
report at your follow-up appointment. Take care and welcome to the losing side.
Laurette
4/23/04 Open RNY
309/290/265/???
St. Vincent Charity, Cleveland, Ohio

Hello,
I was reading your mail and I deleted your message insteat of hitting
the reply. Could you please resend it to me. it was about 4 tickets
to Hawaii from Chicago/O'hare.
I am so sorry..Brain fart today I guess.
Cherie Rivard

actually these are questions i would like to know if any one would liek to
indulge info.. i am glad about the slushy part i was just looking at my
liquid diet program so as to set my mind to it.. cause i tell you all what
weeknds for this diet is killing me.. every where i go people are having a
nice yummy alcaholic beverage and i cannot just taste .. i also know i need
to learn how not to gulp my drinks.. since i willnot be able to do that..
and love to know about the intimate part as if i had a chance ..lol.. well i
do know this process with the surgery was to much to handle for my boyfreind
so we are currently not together.. more fish in my sea so i am not worried
... dang girls at work say i will be a ho after surgery cuase of all the
suiters i have now will being 427 pounds.. giggles.. oh well... ok i am
rambling..lol have a wonderful day and bethany thanks about the slushy
insure idea..
... starlet

~*Krys*~
"I don't particularly like babies. I don't mind them for about four minutes.
That's my max. After that I can't quite see what everyone's fussing about." -
Hugh Grant

congrates on the aproval/ wish you the best.. starlet .

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Hi Bill,
I had my surgery a couple days after my 28th Birthday. Still young! : )
It's by far the best thing I could have done for myself. Definitely scary
going in to it. Now I have found my New Normal lifestyle and I am enjoying
seeing less of myself daily. So far, I can fit in booths when we go out to
eat, Movie seats are comfortable (Sorta except my butt gets sore from
sitting after awhile), Life is becoming easier to live. REALLY LIVE! I
went to a carnival with my Nephew and we went on a couple rides together.
It was so nice not having to worry about if the safety devices would fit on
me. Back seat-seat belts fit now! There are so many things that have
changed for the better since the surgery. For me the best thing so far is
seeing the look on my Husband's face when he sees me walking out of my
office, in a store, or wherever we are. He is always doing double takes.
It's very fun to be the girl that turns his head. So, I am not real sure
what information you are looking for, but I hope this helped. Please feel
free to ask specific questions, I'd be happy to answer.
Blessings, and good luck on the quest for weight loss.
Sarah Vandever
LAP RNY 4-6-04 (2 months out tomorrow!)
305 Pre-Op/254 Now/165 Goal
-51 POUNDS (204 sticks of butter!)

does anyone have experience with rny or other wls for a young man of
21 years of age? any input i can share with him is appreciated.
bill g

You just recently had your surgery less then 3 weeks ago. Right now,
you cannot even think about getting even half of that protien each day.
Trust me when I tell you, just let your body recover from surgery, SIP
the water or crystal light, kool-ade with splenda or whatever your
'drink' is. Get used to sipping and handling the fluids and what not.
It was 2 weeks until I could actually handle drinking maybe 32 oz. for
the day. That included the soup and jello and all the other liquids.
Since you can't manage more then 2 oz at a time, why push it. Just
recover for a few weeks.
AFter about 6 weeks, you'll still be juggling all the liquid
requirements along with any food choices you are allowed. Again, take
it slow. By 4-5 month's you may be lucky to eat your way to 50 grams of
protein but I really doubt it. What I did manage to do is to get 1-2
protien shakes in during the day which gave me another 20-45 grams of
protein. I never worried about 'how much', but focused on healing,
sipping to get my hydration and then managing my food protien. I had a
shake most days cus it was hot and was a nice cool treat :)
I still after a year have days when I don't get my quota of protien or
fluids, but I still try. Remember, your new tummy is as big as a golf
ball. Get yourself a 2 oz. shot glass and see how much can fit in
there. Get yourself some little spoon and fork to learn small bites.
You will always fill up fast.
I hope this makes since to you. Please let your body heal. Rest, sip
and sip a protien shake.. OH... try vanilla with some frozen
strawberries in the blender!!!! Yummy.....
Susan

Hi To All,
OK.. we will be meeting at the Red Lobster by the Florida Mall on Sunday at
1:00pm. Since Omar is going into surgery on Thursday I let him "assist" with
making a decision. He has been kinda out of sorts about this surgery so I'm
hoping an afternoon out with friends will make him feel a little better.
For those of you who will be first timers, I will leave my name up front so
you can just ask for me. Don't forget this get together is open to
pre/post-ops, any type of WLS, any surgeon. You can also bring a guest if you
would like
just let me know so I can have seating for everyone.
My cell phone number is 321-276-0932.
Sincerely,
Dawn

Where is the Florida Mall?

Welcome home Donna. Hope your recovery continues to go so well. Keep us
posted. Remember SIP and REST....take care of yourself and do what the Dr.
orders...lol.
Laurette
4/23/04 Open RNY
St. Vincent Charity, Cleveland, Ohio
309/290/265/???

Thought to self....SMALL SIPS!!! SMALL SIPS!!! Chicken broth is a
nice juicy roasted chicken. Beef broth is a juicy sirloin.
Thanks to all of you for your positive thoughts and prayers. I am
home and doing well in my recovery. Getting my liquids in well, and
had my first doo doo this morning. (lol) Walk walk walk...and
rest... rest is important for our bodies to heal. With that, I am
gonna go rest.
Donna
RNY 06/01/04
309/296/150

Congratulations on your loss...You will not have any problem finding your way
here. You will come to find a bunch of wonderful people who will support you
anyway they can. I havent had surgery yet, but if not for these people the road
would be a whole lot rougher for me.
Again, congratulations and welcome to the group.
Cherie Rivard
Bakersfield, CA
Waiting for a surgery date from Pacific Bariatric
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Hi i just made 4 month's out and -91 pounds...I am new at this so i
hope i'm not to boring.It will take me a while to learn how this web
site works .

MY FAMILY DR. REFUSED TO GIVE ME A REFERRAL. I'M 5'4" 287LBS. NO
OTHER HEALTH PROBLEMS OTHER THAN THE DEATH OF MY MOTHER @ 876LBS.
CAN SOMEONE REFER ME A DR. I LIVE IN BALTIMORE, MD

Angela,
Congratulations on your insurance approval!!! Hopefully it won't be too long
til you get your surgery date. Take care and have a wonderful blessed day.
Laurette
4/23/04 Open RNY
309/290/265/???

I know its been a while since I posted, but with work and college I
have had barely time to rest. My insurance denied me coverage in
April. I didn't find out until May. In May I wrote a letter of appeal
and just last week I got my approval letter!!! YEAH!! I am witing for
my surgery date now. I want to thank all of my supporters. I also
want to wish continued success to all the "losers". I can't wait to
be a loser too. I must admit I am a little bit nervous, but not as
nervous as I will be once the surgery date arrives.
Angela

Kimberly,
My doctor does nothing but stress the need for the adequate amount of protein
per day 50-60 grams. If this isn't met you could lose your hair along with
it doing damage to muscle tissue (this includes your heart muscle). You should
really check with your doctor right away. I try to get my protein in first
then worry about the rest. Take care and have a good day!
Laurette
4/23/04 Open
St. Vincent Charity Hospital, Cleveland, Ohio
309/290/265/???

GREAT JOB STACI!!!!
Kimberly

Ya'll, I'm two weeks and 3 days out and I still haven't done a protein
shake yet. Do we absolutely HAVE to have them?
Kimberly

Hello everyone,
it is me just checking in and saying i have lost 85.5 lbs as of May 29.04 we
went shopping at Wal-Mart and hubby got me some new colorful clothes..((OFF THE
RACKS AT WAL-MART..IT IS SO COOL HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT IN A VVVEEERRRYYYY
LONG TIME))......Not the black things I always wear either.........hope everyone
has a great week end..
P.S
and haven't been doing them alot..maybe one a week maybe two..i do not do the
protein thingy well...unless hubby is here to remember them.. i don't do them...
will this hurt me???? .......
Stacy Beck
Galesburg,Il.
Surgery Date :new one...MARCH,10,04
409.6/ as of MAY 29,04 I WEIGHTED IN AT 326.5
SO THAT MEANS 85.5 LBS GONE FOR GOOD...//
/someday195

hi everyone! i just developed my pictures from the night before my
surgery 12 weeks ago - i also had my husband take new pictures.
i've lost 66 pounds.
check out my photos!
my album is called "Deb Lynn"
Deb
open RNY 3/5/04
357/291/150

Dear Kim,
A couple of things which I hope you will find helpful:

Well after I went and asked you all about tax deductions for surgery,
I found the info below. It seems the IRS goes by your adjusted gross
income. I'm going to call my tax lady and find out if the IRS does
carry overs on this as I already itemize a lot of other stuff.
Kem
To claim the weight-loss tax deduction adopted two years ago, taxpayers
must itemize uncompensated expenses that have been recommended
specifically to lose weight after a doctor's formal diagnosis.
"This diagnosis can be either for the condition of obesity or for any
other medical condition to which weight loss would play a role in
alleviating it, such as hypertension," Lamishaw tells WebMD. "You
should have some written record of that diagnosis for your files, but
you don't need to submit it with your tax forms."
The expenses must be itemized, and (with other allowed medical
deductions) must exceed 7.5% of adjusted gross income.
For someone with an adjusted gross income of $50,000, weight loss and
other medical expenses would have to exceed $3,750; for a household
earning $80,000 after adjustments, it translates to $6,000 in annual
costs.
In practical terms, this translates to a slim chance that most
Americans trying to trim down can also trim their taxes with only diet
and exercise. However, many people getting gastric-bypass surgery
could get the deduction, since some insurance plans don't cover this
$25,000 "stomach-stapling" operation.
SOURCES: Michelle Lamishaw, spokeswoman, Internal Revenue Service,
Washington, D.C. Walter J. Pories, MD, professor of surgery and
biochemistry, East Carolina University School of Medicine, Greenville,
N.C.; past president, American Society for Bariatric Surgery.
Jacqueline Viteri, spokeswoman, American Obesity Association,
Washington, D.C. Internal Revenue Service.
© 2004 WebMD Inc. All rights reserved.
On Thursday, June 3, 2004, at 02:50 PM,

The diet my husband and I followed before the surgery and the one I
still follow now is South Beach. It's a great program, not so much a
diet as a healthy way of eating. You're really not all that restricted
and the things you aren't supposed to eat are the things GB patients
aren't supposed to eat. For the most part it works well after you get
past the first month or so.
Carrie
Lap RNY April 9, 2004
348/297/140 (begin/current/goal)
www.carrieburns.net

I went to the eye doctor who asked me alot of questions about the surgery and
what i could eat . at the end of his questioning he said that he knew several
patients that had this surgery and that what we are eating is similar to the
South Beach Diet.
I was wondering what you all think about that. I looked into some of the
receipes
http://bestbrand.allrecipes.com/southbeachdiet/default.asp
and it looked kind of interesting because it is stuff we could eat. It might
have things that we cnt/dont eat, but it has alot of stuff we *could* eat.
I was just wondering about your take on this.
I like the idea of having some receipes for variety- especially for breakfast!
just a thought,
monica

I could not a few weeks ago either.

I heard somewhere that if you pay out of pocket it can be deducted. I'm not
sure though. Your local H&R block, or if you have your own accountant,
should be able to answer that question.

Bridget,
Because of all the complications I suffered I did not have any plateaus. When I
changed jobs I became more sedentary and have put back on 80 pounds. I also
blame it on the physical disability I have suffered with from birth. It limits
my movement.
I am glad I have found this site, it is helping me get back on the right path.
Patty Spakoski
Open RNY 2-25-99
Boston, MA Dr. Forse
267/145/225 Help!!

I'm wondering if anyone here knows if lap band/gastric by pass can be deductable
from taxes?
Thank you,
Kem

I just went to add photos and it won't let me. Whats going on?
Pam

Amen Kimberly!!!! I feel the same way you do. I too was watching the world
go by without me. Wanting to do so many things and not able to. I'm starting
to get back into life again.
This surgery for me was also the end of the line. My GP and I didn't feel
there was any other way I'd live to a ripe old age. My problems now are trying
to get in the necessary calories and liquid. Never in my life did I ever
think I would ever say "I'm just not hungry".....lol. I have to pretty much
force
down what I eat and struggling to get in 1000 to 1200 calories. Some days I
get closer than others to the 1000. I've already reached this first plateau
and I'm a little frustrated. The Dr said I need to eat more to get the
calories in. So now it seems I'm eating all day....lol.
I'm at the end of my 6th week out of surgery and I'm finding myself real
tired and belly is sore. Not sure if I'm trying to do to much or what. Has
anyone else experienced this? I really haven't lifted or pushed anything heavy
so
I'm hoping I haven't done anything wrong and it's just part of the healing
process.
Well enough rambling for now. Hope everyone has a good day and God Bless!!!
Laurette
4/23/04
309/290/265/???

(Response to the Charlie horse thing) My doctor says I'm not allowed to
eat bananas yet. He did, however, tell me to include Gatorade in my
diet now for the potassium.
You know what's really strange? I sit here day after day, reading these
emails, and all these doctors are saying totally different things as to
what we can and cannot have. For example, I'm not allowed to have ANY
carbonated drinks what so ever, he said that it was a huge "no, no".
But I see that a lot of other patients are doing it. I was also told
"no sugar and very low fat content" not to mention, low carbohydrates
too. I'm following my doctor's orders right down to the last period.
Let me tell you, I never knew I had so much will power. I failed at
every diet I was ever on, but I'm not going to go through major surgery
and fail this one, I owe it to myself to see this through. Thing that
nobody mentioned about this surgery is that you still get hungry and you
still want certain foods that you can't have.
For those people out there who think that this is "the easy way out",
they have absolutely no idea! For some of us, this is the end of the
line. If we don't do this, we are going to die, that's the hard and
simple truth. I'll tell you one thing though, before this surgery, I
wasn't living. I was existing. Just watching the world go by...wanting
to do things but wasn't physically able to do them.
Anyway, didn't mean to babble on and on.
Kimberly

GARY,
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Congrats Kimberly! I wanted to hit 300 last Friday before flying out to
Phoenix to see my husband and did it, was thrilled :)! Even more
thrilling to have come home and find out I lost another pound and now 2
more so I'm officially under 300, has to have been at least a year
since that. It's really a great feeling. Just keep your chin up, you're
doing great :)!
Carrie
Lap RNY April 9, 2004
348/297/140 (begin/current/goal)
www.carrieburns.net

I suppose I shouldn't have worded it that way. Not only was I being
insensitive to those who haven't had the surgery yet, I wasn't being
fair to myself. Thanks for the wake-up call everyone :o)
Hey everybody! I've lost 26 lbs now, 2 weeks and 3 days post op! I'm
under 300 lbs and I can't remember the last time I've been under the 300
mark.
Thanks everyone for the creamy foods tip, it helped a lot!
Kimberly

Patty,
I'm sorry you had problems like that after your surgery. That's
great that the diet pop works for you. I'd just never heard of it
helping with digestion like that but I can see where it would make a
difference. It's a good thing you found out about it! I see you had
your surgery in 99. When did you notice changes in your weightloss
after surgery? (I just wonder because I worry about those dreaded
plateaus . . .)
Take care!
Bridget

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When the road you're trudging seems all uphill,
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Carbonated beverages HELP with digestion??? This is the first time
I've ever heard such a thing. I've always been told that we should
stay away from carbonated drinks because they can stretch our
pouches. As the weather temps increase I really miss my diet pop
but I don't want to mess up the weight I've lost! I am curious
about what others have heard. I know a couple people that drink
diet pop (very small amounts) but I've mostly heard negative
comments about it. Sarah and Patty, can you give us more info on
what you've heard about it being okay?
Thanks!!!
Bridget Northam

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~~Pat~~
Orlando, FL
252/189/160 (-63)
BMI 37.2/28.5/23.6
52 Years Young
LAP-RNY 12/10/03
Wayne English, MD
Ft Lauderdale, FL
Message: 12
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 09:18:32 EDT
From: cheyanne1113@...
Subject: Re: 2 weeks post op CREAMY FOODS?
Another way to compare it is if you lost 22 lbs you have lost 88 sticks of
butter!!!
Jessica in MI
8 wks post-op
317/275/???

WOW, you've lost 20 pounds already? My surgery was one day later than yours
and I've lost 6.9, and I thought that was good! Congrats...Linda D

i was told last night we are to gain 25% back maybe.. i hope i loose 300 so
i still look good withthat 25%.. starlet

My bandages were removed the evening of surgery. Discharged 48 hrs following
surgery w/no bandages or steri-strips... staples only fully exposed.
~~Pat~~
Orlando, FL
252/189/160 (-63)
BMI 37.2/28.5/23.6
52 Years Young
LAP-RNY 12/10/03
Wayne English, MD
Ft Lauderdale, FL
Message: 7
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 06:39:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: J Graby <grabys_4@...
Subject: Re: Bandages - When to take them off?
I would call your doctor to make sure its okay mine were off after the 1st week
check up. But each person is different.
Kim
superjfly <superjfly@...
How long should I wait to take my bandages off? It's been two
weeks, and they still haven't fallen off like the nurse said they
would. I have 5 bandages with small strips of tape/gauze
underneath, so really the bandages aren't doing much anymore.
Neil

you might not be getting enough potassium.

Are ya'll experiencing Charlie horses in the back of your calves? I
sure am, what can I do?

Sarah, If you get food stuck try a small drink of diet coke. It will usually
make your food come back up but you will feel better. I've had to do this a
couple of times. Cindy
Sarah Vandever <sarahavandever@...
amount of Coca-Cola will unclog your pouch if you accidentally didn't chew well
enough? I was talking with my Aunt who is going to be having surgery on the 8th
and she told me about this. I was under the impression that if you didn't chew
... you throw it up or wait. Thanks in advance for your help.
Sarah Vandever
LAP RNY 4-6-04
305/256/165

Thank you to everyone that answered me.
Carolyn
Carolyn
Duarte, Ca
Lap/rny
4/6/04
302/276

Hiya -
What's your name?
Congrats on surgery!
Who told you you need to wait 30 min before and after a shake to drink? A shake
is fluid, and doesn't "stick" in the pouch - the rule about not drinking after
eating is to prevent washing food outta the pouch, preserving the feeling of
full. Doesn't apply to shakes . . .
Also, we drink up to the first bite of food . . . and drink a shake within 30
minutes of mixing it. The protein breaks down after 30 min., leaving nothing
but carbs and calories . . . the only reason to drink so slow is if it hurts
you. Then drink slow enough *not* to hurt, but don't drag it out *all* day . .
. <g
Good luck . . .
Rachel
From: "gph34" <gph34@...
Subject: protein intake
I am finally on "the other side". I had my LAP RNY on 05-24-04 and I
have lost 20lbs to date. I am having a problem with protein intake.
My Dr's program calls for me to have 80 g a day of protein. That
equates to 4 shakes a day at 1 cup of fluid per shake. While trying
to intake my water at about 60cc per hour I feel like I am drinking
something all the time if I wait the 30 minutes before and after my
shake drink. I also spread the drinking of the shakes our over an
hour or so. I am still on clear liguids and shakes only until my
check up on 06-03-04. Any ideas on how to get what I need for fluids?
Thanks gph34
Rachel Hawkridge in Washington State.

Has anyone heard that a small amount of Coca-Cola will unclog your pouch if you
accidentally didn't chew well enough? I was talking with my Aunt who is going
to be having surgery on the 8th and she told me about this. I was under the
impression that if you didn't chew ... you throw it up or wait. Thanks in
advance for your help.
Sarah Vandever
LAP RNY 4-6-04
305/256/165

sugar free pudding, refried beans with cheese, cream
of wheat. I used anything to puree. The hospital
pureed mac and cheese for me and it was tasty!

I am 7 months post-op and I've been doing pretty good
so far. I've lost 132 lbs, with 68 to go till my
goal. Anyway, try looking up the pouch rules for
dummies and going back to that for a week or so. It
will be in the files section of this group. Try
adding protein drinks. I have one for breakfast and
I'm thinking about adding one as a snack because I
haven't lost much in the last week or two. I get the
powder from Vitalady and I choose one that is low in
calories because some of those drinks really have a
lot of calories in them. Mine has 23 grams of protein
and only 90 calories. Up your protein, up your
fluids, up your exercise (or change your exercise
routine) Sometimes your body gets used to the same
exercise day in and day out and it needs a change to
boost it elsewhere. I try to keep my calories between
600-800 a day. I eat 3 meals a day and an evening
snack, which is usually sf hot chocolate and maybe
beef jerky. You have done an awesome job already, but
I know you'd like to get to your goal weight. There
are some people who drink 6 protein shakes a day on
top of their regular meals. This seems like a lot,
but it works for them. Good luck,
Shannon in WA

Well ya'll, I did it. Finally had my surgery! Lord a mercy, that first
week post op I was thinking, "what did I do to myself???". Now the pain
is nearly gone and I'm happy that I did it. I haven't really been able
to exercise yet, except for a half a mile walk last night, so I've only
lost 22 lbs. I'm supposed to get my staples out tomorrow, so hopefully
I can start going to the pool again (I love to swim). Oh, and I'm
starting to dream about food every night. I wake up in a panic...then
realize it was just a dream. In my dreams, I over eat like a ton of
food and then get scared that my stomach is going to explode! lol
Can ya'll tell me what sort of "creamy" foods you eat? I'd like to get
a better idea because the only thing I can think of besides soup is
mashed potatoes and I'm really not wanting to consume that many carbs.

I am finally on "the other side". I had my LAP RNY on 05-24-04 and I
have lost 20lbs to date. I am having a problem with protein intake.
My Dr's program calls for me to have 80 g a day of protein. That
equates to 4 shakes a day at 1 cup of fluid per shake. While trying
to intake my water at about 60cc per hour I feel like I am drinking
something all the time if I wait the 30 minutes before and after my
shake drink. I also spread the drinking of the shakes our over an
hour or so. I am still on clear liguids and shakes only until my
check up on 06-03-04. Any ideas on how to get what I need for fluids?
Thanks gph34

I would call your doctor to make sure its okay mine were off after the 1st week
check up. But each person is different.
Kim
superjfly <superjfly@...
How long should I wait to take my bandages off? It's been two
weeks, and they still haven't fallen off like the nurse said they
would. I have 5 bandages with small strips of tape/gauze
underneath, so really the bandages aren't doing much anymore.
Neil

How long should I wait to take my bandages off? It's been two
weeks, and they still haven't fallen off like the nurse said they
would. I have 5 bandages with small strips of tape/gauze
underneath, so really the bandages aren't doing much anymore.
Neil

Best of Luck. My thoughts and prayers are with you. You have just started
and incrediable journey!
A fellow particiapant...Mary Ann Menz :)

The same thing happens to me, daily. My Drs have tested for
everything they could think of. The only thing I have found is...more
water. I now make one of my meals - soup ( I try to make it Chinese
with egg or tofu in it for the protein). I also snack on watermelon
all day plus two water bottles. The Drs say I'm not dehydrated but
it seems to help. It would happen to me whenever I would stand up,
bend over than stand, or get out of bed. I would have to hold onto
something so I wouldn't fall. The liquid thing helped, it didn't get
rid of it all the way but it doesn't happen as frequently. If you
ever find out why it is happening to you please post it because I
don't know if I am just putting a band-aid on a bigger problem that
hasn't been detected.
Colleen

I am up, and ready, headed to the hospital this morning. All prayers
and positive thoughts are much appreciated. See you all on the
losing side.
Donna
RNY TODAY!!!
309/304/150

I have a quick question please. I am 7 weeks out and am really hungry for a
salad how soon can we eat one? Thanks.
Carolyn
301 pre/ 270 day of surg/ 234 now/ 235

I've been away from the list for a long time. Been reading e-mails when
I can..............everyone here is so helpful, and I need some right now.
I will be 9 months out on June 8th. I have lost 145
pounds.........actually I lost that about a month ago, but I've been on
the dreaded plateau for a while. I think I even gained a couple of
pounds last week, as it was that time of the month for me, which I've
never noticed before, probably because I never owned a scale before now
and I never monitored my weight like I do now.
My starting weight was an even 400 amd I'm 5'7. I'm now at 255. I'm
grateful for the weight loss thus far, but I'm thinking that now I'm
doing everything horribly wrong. I maybe get in 16 oz of water a day (I
used to chug-a-lug water pre-surgery, now I just find that I'm not that
thirsty, and when I really try to down the water, it backs up on me and
I almost gag), and I know I'm not even taking in 1000 calories a day
either. I was drinking my Grande Starbucks (just regular caff coffee)
every day, but then I got scared, thinking that the caffiene was slowing
down my weight loss, so I cut out the coffee. I've drank an occasional
diet coke here and there this last week, and beating myself up about it,
'cuz I had quit cokes last June ( I was easily drinking 6 regular cokes
a day pre-surgery). I don't want to start back in with the coke, even
if it IS diet...................I just DON'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm thinking that I'm really not eating enough, that my body has gone
into starvation mode. I've not lost a pound in about 6 weeks and I'm
really getting scared. I did NOT have this surgery to only lose 145
pounds. I still need to lose about 80 more pounds.
How many calories should I be taking in? And do y'all really count your
calories? Do you write down everything you eat? How much water are you
drinking? I know it sounds like I should know the answers to these
questions, but I think since I've coasted along, losing the weight so
effortlessly until NOW, I need a swift kick to the rear.
I would appreciate any insight you could give me. Tell me what YOU eat
daily. Do you drink protein drinks? Does caffiene really affect your
weightloss? How in the WORLD am I supposed to get enough protein in?
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kim in NorthTexas
-145 lbs
400/255/170

I have been asked and here it is, desite my objections, really bad
before pictures and an ok after picture I guess, plus the whole
story.
Please check it out, click on MY STORY and www.obesitylawyers.com
Thanks
Gary Viscio

Staci,
Try Splenda. It's made from real sugar and .. in my opinion.. tastes great.
I carry a baggie of the packets in my bag to use when I'm out (or I borrow
Pat's lol) and I have a box of the pourable stuff at home.
What's nice is that you don't get the side affects from it that you get from
the artificial sweetners because it's not artificial.
Be Well
Tita
Orlando, FL
275/221/135
39 Years Young
LAP-RNY 12/31/03
Wayne English, MD
Ft Lauderdale, FL

Am I the only person who cannot get into this weekly chat group. I
have clicked away until my fingers have callouses, but still cannot
find a group that is chatting. Is this group still "meeting" on
Mondays? And my second question is ... Is 7 p.m. in the eastern time
zone? I live in New Mexico and would need to adjust.
Thanks for the infor
*********************************************************************
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Does anyone ever experience lightheadedness and/or
almost passing out. I am almost 15 months post op and
twice have experience almost passing out... heart rate
speeds up, ears start ringing, and everything goes
black and once I put my head between my legs it slowly
comes back. Has that happened to anyone?
Also, sometimes if I stand up too quickly I feel
lightheaded, but that goes away quickly.
Does this happen to anyone else? Any insight?
Thanks.
Mary
March 11, 2003
319/160/130

It happend to me about 5 months post op expect for the fact i actually passed
out. Granted I hadn't had much sleep or had anything to eat at the time and
was at school. Now if i get up to fast or such i do get the same feelings back.
Never found out the reason though and it had never happened to me before
surgery.
mel

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Weekly Group Chat!!
Monday May 31, 2004
7:00 pm - 10:00 pm
This event repeats every week.
Notes:

Staci
Dump the PINK packet...
dump the BLUE packet.....
Go for the YELLOW packet
SPLENDA ROCKS
Its made from sugar and it tastes like sugar.
You can cook with it and it measures like sugar.
~~Pat~~
Orlando, FL
252/189/160 (-63)
BMI 37.2/28.5/23.6
52 Years Young
LAP-RNY 12/10/03
Wayne English, MD
Ft Lauderdale, FL
Message: 8
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 13:56:15 -0500
From: Staci <aloha@...
Subject: Nutrasweet problems
Hello I am new here, and I see a lot of people on here talking about
sugar free this and that. I have not had the surgery yet, but have been
researching it for about a year and have finally decided that it is the
answer for me. (with my Doctor, of course) My only problem is that a
few years ago I had to give up nutra sweet. I discovered that a lot of
people were getting sick from nutra sweet. I found out that I had many
of the symptoms, and I had been a diet coke junkie, 6 - 8 cans a day.
I absolutely LOVED my Diet Coke! It was the hardest thing I ever did,
having to give that up.
I had chronic headaches, fibromyalgia, depression, memory loss, no
memory retention, chronic fatigue, numbness in my arms, hands, feet,
and face, joint pain, and it was horrible! I felt awful all of the
time, but within 1 week of quitting aspertame, I felt much better, and
in 3 weeks I felt like a new person! Most of my symptoms were gone, and
now they have all gone, and never returned! (for info go to any search
engine and type in sweet poison, aspertame or nutrasweet sick).
Anyways, I just will not do nutrasweet again. Is there something else
out there that anyone knows of? If not, I guess I will stick with
sugar, it is natural and does not make me so ill. I don't want to be
unsuccessful with my surgery, and I don't want to be so sick again. I
have not discovered another possibility yet.
Thank you for any responses! Staci
Try not to be a person of success, but rather a person of virtue
--Albert Einstein

Stacy,
I too had the similar reaction to the aspartame products. I did my
research and found other alternatives years ago, but found that Diet
Rite sodas have the saccrin product, which is fine with me. Atleast
nobody ever died from that poisoning :)
If you watch any TV, you have probably seen the commercials about
Splenda. This is a commonly known product, more so now then a few years
ago, which I was introduced to then. It's a great product, tastes so
much better then the 'poison' you've experienced also. It has been
processed, however, it does start out as a 'sugar'. You can read more
about it online just doing a Google search on Splenda. It measures cup
for cup, spoon for spoon as sugar does, but it's lighter in weight.
This makes it so much easier for cooking and it cooks well at high
temperatures. My family even loves it.
Have you tried any of the Carb Smart ice cream? Well, this contains
Splenda. It's a favorite around here too and with all the new added
flavors they've made, it's a real treat around here. My favorite
besides the strawberry is the mint chocolate chip. Yummy!!!
There are other options also, somersweet, (Suzanne Somers sells this) as
well as stevia a more natural very sweet product that you can find at
specilty health food stores.
Anyhow, good luck in your search. Grab yourself some Splenda in bulk or
even yellow packets, (Starbucks uses these now!) Try out a few things.
Susan in Las Vegas
RNY 4/28/03
286/175

Well, the day has finally come...my surgery is tomorrow morning. Please
keep me in your prayers, as I have 10 nervous children waiting at home
for me.
Cindy Walker

Hello I am new here, and I see a lot of people on here talking about
sugar free this and that. I have not had the surgery yet, but have been
researching it for about a year and have finally decided that it is the
answer for me. (with my Doctor, of course) My only problem is that a
few years ago I had to give up nutra sweet. I discovered that a lot of
people were getting sick from nutra sweet. I found out that I had many
of the symptoms, and I had been a diet coke junkie, 6 - 8 cans a day.
I absolutely LOVED my Diet Coke! It was the hardest thing I ever did,
having to give that up.
I had chronic headaches, fibromyalgia, depression, memory loss, no
memory retention, chronic fatigue, numbness in my arms, hands, feet,
and face, joint pain, and it was horrible! I felt awful all of the
time, but within 1 week of quitting aspertame, I felt much better, and
in 3 weeks I felt like a new person! Most of my symptoms were gone, and
now they have all gone, and never returned! (for info go to any search
engine and type in sweet poison, aspertame or nutrasweet sick).
Anyways, I just will not do nutrasweet again. Is there something else
out there that anyone knows of? If not, I guess I will stick with
sugar, it is natural and does not make me so ill. I don't want to be
unsuccessful with my surgery, and I don't want to be so sick again. I
have not discovered another possibility yet.
Thank you for any responses! Staci
Try not to be a person of success, but rather a person of virtue
--Albert Einstein

ALOT OF PEOPLE HAVE DIED FROM THE BANDING BRAKEING I CHOSE THE LAP BP I HAVE
LOST 85 IN 3 MONTHS I WILL BE PRAYING FOR YOU

I suggest you need to do some more reading since it appears you don't
have a complete grasp of the terms you use. Start by going to this
groups Home page (on your left) and read the preface: "What is Gastric
Bypass?"
Basically there are two types of surgery, Laparoscopic and Open. Then
there are different types of obesity surgery. There are several
Restrictive Surgery Procedures. Then, there are Combined Restrictive
and Malabsorptive Surgery procedures. There are also some other
procedures that are usually no longer recommended including one called
Intestinal Bypass which is what you may be referring to but is not
used much anymore.
You should familiarize yourself with all the different types of
gastric bypass surgeries before you can ask people which they favor.
Many times it is the local surgeon with the expertese that is the
overriding factor and may be supported by your in network insurance
policy. Some folks have educated themselves well enough to know
specifically which proceedure is going to give them the best tool to
lose the weight and maintain that weight loss after the 12-18 month
"window of opportunity" is over. It is very easy to regain the weight
that is lost if you don't understand the process and that you will be
responsible for limiting your food intake after your surgery has
helped you lose the weight.
This is a tool for weight loss not a tool for weight loss maintenance.
You will have to do the work to keep your weight loss after your
surgically altered insides return to their pre surgical size. This
process is called adaptation. It is built into the human survival
ability to regenerate damaged tissues so we can continue to survive.
After about two years you will be able to eat enough to start putting
on weight again. Prepare yourself for the task ahead. It will be
worth it but you should do more research.
Cathy
Then go to this site for the American Obesity Association:
http://www.obesity.org/education/advisor.shtml

I am just curious as to if most people do the lap band or the
gastric?? Did i make the wrong decision by choosing to have the by
pass done? Should i think twice and maybe just do the lap band..

Is it kinda like TANG?
Pat

hey Shirley, I saw dr. Zorn on Friday!!! he will be performing the lap on me as
well. don't have a surgery date since the psychologist recommended me 3 months
of a "diet" on my own. I also had all 3 appointments in one day. good luck,
that is rather strange that we will be having the same doctor! I'm in san Diego
where he is located.
~*Krys*~
"I don't particularly like babies. I don't mind them for about four minutes.
That's my max. After that I can't quite see what everyone's fussing about." -
Hugh Grant

I FINALLY GOT MY 3 DOC 1 DAY APPT ONLY AFTER I FAXED MY PAPER WORK
TO PB BECAUSE I HAD NOT HEARD FROM ANYONE ON MY SURGERY I GO JUNE 4
AND THEN THEY SAY I SHOULD HEAR SOMETHING WITHIN 21 DAYS. ANYWAY MY
DOC IS ZORN HE DOES THE LAP AND THEY SAID THEY HAVE OPENINGS I JUST
DON'T KNOW WHEN I GUESS I WILL FIND OUT SOON. I HAVE NEVER HAD ANY
SURGERY EXCEPT ON MY KNEE SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH CAN I HAVE LAP OR
NOT. WISH ME LUCK EVRYONE ON BEING ABLE TO GET THE LAP AND SOON
SHIRLEY OF FONTANA CA

In a message dated 5/30/04 7:21:46 PM, dreamadream1985@... writes:
<< Does anyone drink Crystal Light Orange Juice? I tried
it for the first time today. It tastes really good!
It is very good, but I like my SF Tang better :)

Does anyone drink Crystal Light Orange Juice? I tried
it for the first time today. It tastes really good!
-Mary
March 11, 2003
319/160/130

It might have been the sweet pickle relish in the tartar sauce that
caused dumping.
Cathy

Kelly,
I found a wonderful and cheap source of clothing. Go to eBay and join
and then go to "search" and type in "tops and your size" Keep that
search information in the "favorites" section and start another search
for pants and when you get that search result add it to your
favorites. In the future you can then go to your saved favorites and
easily check out what is offered. I usually make a pile of items I'm
interested in following by putting them in the "Items I'm Watching"
category. Then if they go out of my price range I just delete it. If
I really like it and the bidding seems close I stay close to the end
of auction time and with under a minute to go will put in a bid as
high as I can imagine wanting to pay. I have never had to pay that
much because I time it so close that no one has time to raise the bid.
If they do they had a bid in higher than I was willing to pay and I
just let it go....there's always more another day. Anyhow that's my
secret trick to getting super values at eBay.
Good luck,
Cathy

Welcome to the world of Dumping. I still dump sometimes at 13 months out. Fish
is a good protien though. You will learn in time trust us on all of that
Kim
Open 5-5-03
243-122-115
cheyanne1113@... wrote:
I got of work last night and my husband wanted to go over to his cousin's
house. So anyway, all he had was some fried fish from a local restaurant and I
hadn't ate dinner and didn't have anything with me to eat, so I ate the fish (i
peeled most of the fried batter off) and I had some Kraft tarter sauce with
it. That was about 9pm last night then about 3am in the morning I woke up with
the most horrible stomach pains I've ever had and the runs and i was nauseous
and I was shakey and I had the sweats. My surgery was 8 weeks ago Friday and
now Ive graduated to foods of regular consistancy and I wonder if I over did
it with the fish. My friend Shannon (bless her heart) I called her at 3 am and
asked her what was wrong with me and she seems to think I was dumping too.
(Her surgery was 3 weeks before mine.) So, I feel fine this morning when I
woke up. Like nothing ever happened. Has this ever happened to anybody else??
Jessica in MI
343/275/????
Open RNY 4/2/04

I got of work last night and my husband wanted to go over to his cousin's
house. So anyway, all he had was some fried fish from a local restaurant and I
hadn't ate dinner and didn't have anything with me to eat, so I ate the fish (i
peeled most of the fried batter off) and I had some Kraft tarter sauce with
it. That was about 9pm last night then about 3am in the morning I woke up with
the most horrible stomach pains I've ever had and the runs and i was nauseous
and I was shakey and I had the sweats. My surgery was 8 weeks ago Friday and
now Ive graduated to foods of regular consistancy and I wonder if I over did
it with the fish. My friend Shannon (bless her heart) I called her at 3 am and
asked her what was wrong with me and she seems to think I was dumping too.
(Her surgery was 3 weeks before mine.) So, I feel fine this morning when I
woke up. Like nothing ever happened. Has this ever happened to anybody else??
Jessica in MI
343/275/????
Open RNY 4/2/04

yes we can put on weight after the surgery remember it is a tool and
you will have to watch what you eat and how much. carb beverages will
stretch the stomach and over eating will also . eating sweets and
high carb foods will do the same. this is juat a way for us to start
over you will always need to watch what you eat and how much . i did
see carnie and was shocked also at her weight gain.it just let's us
know to watch our selfs after the surgery and i have always said that
marriage was fattening because now you cook for someone else and
everybody eats different, i will keep in mind carnie when i want to
eat something i should not.

Pat
I enjoyed this email I have been so into the only reason I would have this
drastic surgery is due to the medication ..........I am mega insulin both
shots and pills ....high blood pressure....nexum / xanax and so on. I was
told this is cure for all the things that haunt my health I am near the 100
pounds over weight but the weight is not the biggest thing for me...........
...For most it may be to reach that perfect size society believe it to be
but I want to wake up one morning and not start having to push the pills in
my mouth and the needles ..........I want to walk past my front yard and not
give out of breath.........I know I am far away from getting the surgery for
I just finished the paper work a week ago and I know my insurance will
approve me and so on and patience has never been one of my better qualities
but I understand where you are coming from ...........I would love to be
where you are and one day I will be ............
God Bless
Anita

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Cleveland Clinic (Weston, FL) meeting
Monday May 31, 2004
5:00 pm - 7:00 pm
This event repeats on the last Monday of every month.
Event Location: conference room
Notes:
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Kelly,
What size do you need and where are you located?
Cherie rivard
Kizzy_041678@... wrote:
Hi i had gastric bypass and need clothes desparate you can e-mail me
at Kizzy_041678@...
thanks Kelly

MIMI
I started out with a goal of only 92 lbs to lose. My pre-op BMI was only 37,
but my reasons were more to reverse or ease many diseases I was dealing with
rather than get into a size 12. I am 5'9 1/2 " with a large bone frame (for
real). I lost 1/3 of my excess weight the first 3 months post-op, a short
honeymoon for me. The rest has been in fast 10 lb increments with plateaus
inbetween of 3-5 weeks. I guess my body is catching up in between and Im glad
b/c it means Im not losing muscle mass.
Yes, I have no choice but to have a lot of PATIENCE. I do get frustrated at the
recent slow loss but I no longer pay $280/month in RX co-pays for 21 rx pills a
day, Im off all insulin and other diabetic meds, Nexium and other gastric reflux
meds, Celebrex, Paxil CR, Wellbutrin, Xanax. Cozaar for hypertension has been
halved, plus am off Lipitor and I cant remember what else.
I only need lots of PATIENCE to lose 30 more lbs and I will be a happy camper.
Im told it takes someone who only has 100 lbs to lose the same 12-18 months to
reach goal as someone with 300 lbs to lose, that proportionately our bodies
cannot adjust to everyone losing 100 lbs at the same time.
After taking 30 years to accumulate this weight, and 30 New Years Resolutions to
get it off, 12 months dont really seem that long to lose it all.
Patience, Patience, Patience... it will pay off
~~Pat~~
Orlando, FL
252/189/160 (-63)
BMI 37.2/28.5/23.6
52 Years Young
LAP-RNY 12/10/03
Wayne English, MD
Ft Lauderdale, FL
Message: 14
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 05:15:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: MIMI RODRI <needprozak2000@...
Subject: Re: weight loss questions
YOU DEFINATELY MUST HAVE LOTS OF PATIENCE--I WOULD BE GOING OUT OF MY MINE..MIMI
Pat Keller <pbkeller@...
Like after every 10 lb loss... I plateau for 3-4 weeks.
~~Pat~~
Orlando, FL
252/189/160 (-63)
BMI 37.2/28.5/23.6
52 Years Young
LAP-RNY 12/10/03
Wayne English, MD
Ft Lauderdale, FL
Message: 25
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 12:44:38 EDT
From: Babydollbbw3@...
Subject: weight loss questions
hi everyone,
here's my delemia....i had my surgery on April 23, at my follow-up on May
10th I had lost 22 lbs. Since then I haven't lost but maybe 3 lbs. I'm trying
to get in the required calories best i can but it sure is hard. do make sure i
get the protein in though. i have already dropped a size and lost some
inches. has anyone else experienced this weight loss stand still?
thanks,
laurette
309/290/267/???
4/23/04

Starlet,
That is so awesome, congratulations!! This will be the start of a whole new
life for you.
I am no longer in pain, I can get out and walk and enjoy myself. Going to
the mall, going to the grocery store...all those kinds of things.
I wish you all the luck in the world, Keep us informed as things go along.
Claudia
2-10-04
404pre-op/367surg/304/160?

hello every one.. i am so happy i lost a littole weight got all my pre-op
doc visits done.. got my surgery date schedualed.. june 23, 04 omg its
going to happen..i just have to keep trying to loose weight.. doc wants me
to be 400 beofre i go in.. man.. he took me off my antiflamitroy meds and i
am in sooooooooooooo much pain but its worth it.. skinny here i come.. i
already see it in my face. i can see my demples now..lol
well just though you all would like to hear that since just a few months ago
i was singingmy song and dacce on how misserable i was and not getting any
receults from my hmo side.. ..starlet
starlet
RNY 6/23/04
449 lbs 427 now

To All,
I know that each surgeon has their own rules to follow after surgery, so, I
just thought I would mention this: My surgeon, Dr Barry Fisher, does not want
his patients to eat any slippery foods, and that would include pasta. The
reason being that slippery foods do not stay in your pouch for long, so thay
slide out quickly, and then you don't have that full feeling for long at all.
I am also curious if anyone here has been told to drink 32 ozs of milk a day?
I have seen some postings here and there about that, but my surgeon doesn't
do that one. aND WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY THAT IS IMPORTANT. I do take tums 2
pills 2x a day.
Thanks,
Ellen
very greatful surgery 3/15/04
440/379/???? 65 lbs lost in the 10 weeks !!!! Woopie!!!
Your friend in freedom from fat!
Ellen Kahn
Tatouage Consultant
Tatouagedesigns.com
discount code: EllKah30
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly
proclaiming -- WOW--What a Ride!!!"
In a message dated 5/28/2004 2:16:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

--
Hi
I dont have any problem with turkey bacon, I have found the morning
farms was the best...good luck but use it in moderation..
396/230 lbs
Wendy

Hi Michelle,
I just want to say one thing in regards to your last comment...this surgery may
or may not cause you to suffer ill effects when you eat the wrong foods. Some
people can eat sugar and most people can eat fat without any problem.
Overeating is one thing that can definitely cause some pain, but grazing the
same amount of food won't hurt and it can cause you to stop losing or to gain.
My point is, if you're going to do it, be sure that YOU are committed to making
it work. It is a great weight loss tool, but it isn't meant to work by itself.
Learn as much as you can about it now, and go into this as well informed as you
can. If you have any questions, I'm glad to help if I'm able. I'll be away for
a couple days, but I'll be sure to answer soon.
-Gina in CA
LAP RNY 07-17-03
330/214/130?

Wow your program must be way different than mine. I was scolded the
other day because I was drinking 4 cups of milk per day to help get
my protein. The NP said I should be drinking 3 cups max due to the
calories.
Neil

they all went great, I'm exhausted! I just wish they weren't so far apart I
think that's what made me so tired. the psychologist is recommending me do my
own "diet" for 3 months without gaining any weight and working my way up to an
hour non-stop on the treadmill. if I can do that after 3 months then they will
proceed w/ a surgery date. the internets or the surgeon didn't even recommend
this which in a way sucks cause this is holding me back. but it's good so I can
be used to this and starting my daily vitamins as well. I can also save more
money & accrue more sick/vacation time so I don't have to take as much time on
disability. so I have to look at this in a positive light so to speak. so that
is my update!
~*Krys*~
"I don't particularly like babies. I don't mind them for about four minutes.
That's my max. After that I can't quite see what everyone's fussing about." -
Hugh Grant

Hi everyone,
Just curious if anyone watched Good Morning America and saw Carnie Wilson I was
totally shocked when I came home from work and saw her. What happened she gained
weight . I was ohhhhhhhhhhhhh no can that happen to me? I read both her books
and looked up her as an inspirations
Katrina L Gardner <ktrnagar@...
HAVE YOU STARTED DOING ANY WALKING?.ALSO,IF YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE ACTUALLY
EATING TO GET YOUR CALORIES IN,TRY HIGH PROTEIN BOOST AS A FILLER.YOU'RE GETTING
240 CALORIES WITHOUT ACTUALLY "EATING".I KNOW IT WAS SO HARD FOR ME TO BECAUSE I
WAS NEVER HUNGRY.BUT I WAS ALWAYS THIRSTY SO I DECIDED TO GET AT LEAST 4 BOOSTS
IN IN A DAY.THAT'S 960 CALORIES AS IT IS AND YOU CAN GET YOUR OTHER "FOOD" IN TO
MAKE UP YOUR 1200 CALORIES A DAY.TRY IT AND LET ME KNOW IF IT WORKS FOR
YOU.K.I.T.KATRINA..
Pat Keller <pbkeller@...
Like after every 10 lb loss... I plateau for 3-4 weeks.
~~Pat~~
Orlando, FL
252/189/160 (-63)
BMI 37.2/28.5/23.6
52 Years Young
LAP-RNY 12/10/03
Wayne English, MD
Ft Lauderdale, FL
Message: 25
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 12:44:38 EDT
From: Babydollbbw3@...
Subject: weight loss questions
hi everyone,
here's my delemia....i had my surgery on April 23, at my follow-up on May
10th I had lost 22 lbs. Since then I haven't lost but maybe 3 lbs. I'm trying
to get in the required calories best i can but it sure is hard. do make sure i
get the protein in though. i have already dropped a size and lost some
inches. has anyone else experienced this weight loss stand still?
thanks,
laurette
309/290/267/???
4/23/04

HAVE YOU STARTED DOING ANY WALKING?.ALSO,IF YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE ACTUALLY
EATING TO GET YOUR CALORIES IN,TRY HIGH PROTEIN BOOST AS A FILLER.YOU'RE GETTING
240 CALORIES WITHOUT ACTUALLY "EATING".I KNOW IT WAS SO HARD FOR ME TO BECAUSE I
WAS NEVER HUNGRY.BUT I WAS ALWAYS THIRSTY SO I DECIDED TO GET AT LEAST 4 BOOSTS
IN IN A DAY.THAT'S 960 CALORIES AS IT IS AND YOU CAN GET YOUR OTHER "FOOD" IN TO
MAKE UP YOUR 1200 CALORIES A DAY.TRY IT AND LET ME KNOW IF IT WORKS FOR
YOU.K.I.T.KATRINA..
Pat Keller <pbkeller@...
Like after every 10 lb loss... I plateau for 3-4 weeks.
~~Pat~~
Orlando, FL
252/189/160 (-63)
BMI 37.2/28.5/23.6
52 Years Young
LAP-RNY 12/10/03
Wayne English, MD
Ft Lauderdale, FL
Message: 25
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 12:44:38 EDT
From: Babydollbbw3@...
Subject: weight loss questions
hi everyone,
here's my delemia....i had my surgery on April 23, at my follow-up on May
10th I had lost 22 lbs. Since then I haven't lost but maybe 3 lbs. I'm trying
to get in the required calories best i can but it sure is hard. do make sure i
get the protein in though. i have already dropped a size and lost some
inches. has anyone else experienced this weight loss stand still?
thanks,
laurette
309/290/267/???
4/23/04

my doctor has told me what to take and when to start taking them. i guess
every doctor is different. i take an adult multi-vitamin/ 1200 mg of calcium,
500 mg B12 and since i'm still pre-menopausal i also take 325 mg of ferrous
sulfate (iron). i will start all but the vitamin this next monday which is the
beginning of my 6th week out post-op.
good luck!!!
laurette

Michelle...
Most people tend to remember other people's bad experiences whether or not the
person with the bad experience was compliant or brought the problems on
themselves over remembering the good experiences. I also have learned, outside
a group like this, many people secretly or unconsciously do not want you to
succeed and lose the weight.
Go for it for your own reasons; you do not need other s approval. You are the
one who has to live with the choice you make; and if you are compliant you
should have no problems.
~~Pat~~
Orlando, FL
252/189/160 (-63)
BMI 37.2/28.5/23.6
52 Years Young
LAP-RNY 12/10/03
Wayne English, MD
Ft Lauderdale, FL
Message: 5
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 18:03:42 -0000
From: decemberfemale66@...
Subject: Hello Everybody
I am do for my evaluation on June 15, and then I am do to talk with
my surgeon on June 23 there I can ask all the question I want I have
made a list of questions I want to ask. Do anyone know how long
after your evaluation, and confirmtation with surgeon do you have to
wait for the surgery I know everyone is different.
Also another thing may people I talk to and tell them I am going to
have the surgery and if they know of someone who have had it they
talk down about the surgery, so I never hear to much good things
about the surgery always negative. However all the negativity is
making me have second thoughts and I don't want to do that. Like I
told a person I think with the surgery I can do it because I will
know then if I don't eat right then I will have to suffer the
effects that will occur so that will give me the will power to eat
right and stick with it.
Michelle

I just need some advice on what the best vitamins would be and how do
you know the dosage? is that something my doctor will subscribe to
me after my surgery or what.. help.. im confused..